Tragedia na Przełęczy Diatłowa (1 luty 1959 r.)

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May 18 - testing for radiation

Lev Ivanov, lead investigator of Dyatlov case, decides on this date to order a physical and technical expertise on the radioactive contamination of the clothing and parts of bodies of the deceased tourists.

Resolution for radiation contamination testing

Ivanov appoints the chief radiologist of Sverdlovsk Levashov to conduct the tests.

All clothing of Semyon Zolotaryov, Lyudmila Dubinina, Aleksander Kolevatov and Nikolai Thibeaux-Brignolle, as well as parts of their bodies were sent for testing.

Radiometric measurements were carried out with the help of the Tiss device without ashing in a lead house with cassette counters STS-6 in number of 4 pieces.

"Tiss" universal device

"Tiss" universal device, measures alpha with an energy of radiation more than 3 MeV, beta and gamma with an energy of radiation more than 0.600 MeV.

Measuring range: 2 - 700 rpm * cm2.

Тhe device is measuring the contamination of clothing, hands and work surfaces with alpha or beta-active substances, receives a signal that the amount of contamination exceeds the permissible level, the value of which can be set by the operator.

Later, with radiometric measurements without ashing in a lead house with cassette counters STS-6 in the amount of 4 pieces, maximum contamination was established in some sections.

Basic technical specification: The device is designed to work in the temperature range of ambient air from +5 to +35 ° C and relative humidity up to 85% (at + 20°C) Power - from the AC 110/127/220 V network with a frequency of 50 Hz.

According to the direct-reading device, it is possible to measure the average pulse arrival rate in the range of 60-100 000 cpm.

The entire range is divided into 6 subbands: 300 pulses / min - 100 000 imp / min.

The TU block has a working surface of 150 cm2.

The device's own background is 20 pulses/min.

With the TI block it is possible to work in gamma fields with an intensity of not more than 500 micro/sec.

The block is sensitive to magnetic fields.

The instrument measures contamination of surfaces with beta-active substances complete with a block of PM.

The working surface of the sensor is 130 cm2.

The measuring range is up to 100 000 rpm.

The device provides automatic compensation of the external gamma background, provided that the background value does not exceed the nominal value of the scale at which the measurements are made.

The studies were performed in Sverdlovsk radiological laboratory from 18 - 25 May 59.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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May 27 - Radiological Analysis Report

CONCLUSION OF THE EXPERT

I here by testify that I have been warned about the responsibility under articles 92 and 95 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR
Levashov (signature) 18.V.1959

The tests were performed in the radiological laboratory from 18/V-59 to 25/V-59.

REFERENCE
In the Certificate of Examination all objects of investigation are numbered from №1 to №4 as in the autopsy reports:
№1 Kolevatov
№2 Zolotaryov
№3 Thibault Brignoles
№4 Dubinina

Samples of solid biosubstrates and clothes combined in groups under Nos 1, 2, 3,4 were submitted to the radio-isotope laboratory of the Sverdlovsk sanitaryepidemic station and were analyzed for presence of radioactive materials.

Dosimetric measurements of clothes showed excessive radioactivity (Betaemission only, no Alpha or Gamma-quanta) of 200–300 counts per minute (cpm) over the natural background.

Further investigation allowed maximum contamination to be established on different spots of clothing:

1. Brown sweater from №4: 9900 cpm on 150 cm2
2. Bottom part of bloomers from №1: 5000 cpm on 150 cm2
3. Belt of sweater from №1: 5600 cpm on 150 cm2

Table №2 shows the contamination of various types of clothing.

Recalculation was performed on the B-2 installation in a lead house with a cassette counter STS-6 in the number of 4 pieces.

Conversion factor
installations B-2 k = 8.9;
background in lead house (before washing) 90 pulses/min;
background in lead house (after washing) 100 pulses/min.

Experimental washing of the clothes showed that the pollution is reduced, the percentage of decreasing varies from 30% to 60% (clothes were washed in running cold water for 3 hours).

When determining the type of radiation, it is established that the activity takes place due to beta particles.

Alpha particles and gamma quanta were not detected.

The absence of appropriate instruments and conditions in the laboratory made it impossible to perform radiochemical and spectrometric analysis to determine the chemical structure of the emitter and its radiation energy.

Radiometric measurements of solid biosubstrates were carried out at the B-2 facility (No. 2554) in a lead house with a BFA-25 meter.

The unit was measured using a strontium preparation with an activity of 1) 7000 rpm, 2) 2000 rpm.

The results of measurements of samples from №1, 2, 3, 4 are summarized in Table №1 (see on the back)

Set conversion ratio = 5.5

The results of the measurements from the control samples are summarized in Table №3 (see below)

Forensic medical expert Dr. Vozrozhdenny obtained control samples of tissues of a person who died in motor vehicle accident in Sverdlovsk.

The presence of the natural radiological element Potassium-40 was in approximately the same amounts as in Table №1.

Thus, the results of the studies in Tables 1 and 3 do not exceed the averaged data on the content of radioactive substances in human organs and may be due to natural radioactive Potassium-40.

Radiation by type refers to Beta particles.

Alpha particles and gamma quanta are not detected.

CONCLUSIONS:

1. The content of radioactive materials in analyzed solid biosubstartes is within the natural level (and is due to the presence of isotope K-40).
2. The analyzed samples of clothing carry slightly excessive amounts of radioactive substances being the source of Beta-emission.
3. The detected radioactive materials or radioactive substance show a tendency to washing-off in the course of clothing samples washing, i.e., they are not due to a neutron flux or induced radiation, but rather to radioactive contamination with Beta-particles.

Chief radiologist of the city of Levashov (signed) 27.05.1959

The studies were performed in the radiological laboratory from 18/V-59 to 25/V-59.

Nowadays, on 28 Jan 2014, Komsomolskaya pravda reporter Natalya Varsegova asked Vladimir Askinadzi:

Were you tested for radiation?
– No.

I learned about radiation only when the case was declassified.

True, there was a Moscow radiologist with a dosimeter there on the pass.

He took measurements, but we were not informed about the results.

They also interviewed Petr Bartolomey who was student in UPI at the time and a good friend of Igor Dyatlov:

Was there radiation at the dying place of Dyatlov group?
– The well-known physicist Abram Kikoin was in charge of the tests for radiation at the site of the death of the hikers.

Now deceased.

He is also the head of the mountaineering section in UPI, a physics teacher, Ph.D. Kikoin flew there with the latest radiometer for those times, developed by Yuri Shtein, also a graduate of UPI.

This radiometer, although it was rather cumbersome, was considered very successful.

It was used in 1957 to measure radiation at the site of a well-known accident in the Chelyabinsk Mayak.

I do not know what caused the need for radiation measurement.

But, as far as I know, Kikoin worked there with a radiometer on his own initiative.

Perhaps, that's why this is not mentioned in the criminal case.

On the pass Kikoin, as far as I know, did not find dangerous radiation.

However, checking the clothes of Yuri Krivonischenko showed an elevated radioactive background.

Kikoin then came to the conclusion that this radiation on the clothes could have been brought from somewhere.

Probably, from that very factory "Mayak", where Krivonischenko worked.

But in more detail on the radiation at the pass you can ask the radiometer designer Yuri Shtein, now living in Yekaterinburg.

He was also involved in this investigation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Resolution to close the case

I APPROVE:
PROSECUTOR OF THE SVERDLOVSK REGION
STATE ADVISER OF JUSTICE OF THE III CLASS
(N. KLINOV)
May 28, 1959

Nikolay Ivanovich Klinov - Prosecutor of Sverdlovsk region

RESOLUTION.

May 28, 1959
city of Sverdlovsk

Prosecutor criminologist of the Sverdlovsk Regional Prosecutor's Office Jr. Justice Counselor Ivanov, having examined the criminal case instituted on the occasion of the death of 9 tourists in the Ivdel district of the Sverdlovsk region,

Case file page 384

Rulled:

January 23, 1959 a group of amateur tourists in the amount of 10 people went on a ski trip along the route: city of Sverdlovsk - city of Ivdel - 2nd Northern district - Mt. Otorten - Oika-Chakour mountain - North Toschemka river - Vizhay settlement - city of Ivdel - city of Sverdlovsk.

The group consisted of: Igor Dyatlov - a student of the Ural Polytechnic Institute, leader of the expedition; Dubinina L.A., Kolmogorova Z.A., Kolevatov A.S., Yudin Y.E., Doroshenko Y.N. - UPI students; Zolotaryov A.A. - Instructor of the Kourovka Tourist Base, Slobodin R.V., Krivonischenko Y.G., Thibeaux-Brignolle N.V. - engineers of enterprises in Sverdlovsk and Chelyabinsk.

All the participants of the expedition had good hiking training and could participate in a trek of III category of difficulty.

The group was supplied with the necessary equipment and food, the trade union committee of the Ural Polytechnic Institute financed the expedition.

Arriving safely to the place of the beginning of the trek - the 2nd Northern Ivdels district on 28.I.59 the group started the hike.

One tourist - Yudin Y.S. returned home from the site of the 2nd Northern, as he could not continue the trek due to illness.

From diary entries, sketches of the route and developed photographic films of the tourists it is determined that on 28 May 1959 the group went upstream Lozva river, 30.I.59 the group continued its movement, 31.I.59 the tourists reached Auspiya river and tried to go over the pass to the valley of Lozva river, but because of the low temperature and strong wind they had to go back down and stopped for overnight.

On I.II.59 tourists built a storage in the upper reaches of Auspiya river in which they left supplies of food and all unnecessary equipment.

On 31.I.59 going back in the valley of Auspiya river and knowing about the difficult conditions of the relief of the height "1079", where the ascent was supposed to be, Dyatlov, as the leader of the group, made a gross mistake allowing the group to begin the ascent on 1.II.59, only at 15-00.

Case file page 385

Later, on the ski trail, which was preserved at the time of the search, it was possible to establish that the tourists, moving to the valley of the fourth tributary of the Lozva River, were 500-600 m to the left and instead of the pass formed by the peaks "1079" and "880" they went up on the eastern slope of height "1079".

This was Dyatlov's second mistake.

Using light day time to rise to the top of the "1079", in conditions of strong wind that is usual in this area, and a low temperature of the order of 25-30 ° C, Dyatlov group found themselves at unprofitable conditions for spending the night and decided to pitch the tent on a slope of height "1079" so that in the morning of the next day, without losing altitude, go to the Mt. Otorten, to which the distance in straight line remained about 10 km.

In one of the cameras the last frame shows the moment of excavation of snow for the installation of the tent.

Considering that this frame was shot with an exposure of I/25 seconds, with a diaphragm of 5.6 at a film sensitivity of 65 Un. GOST, and taking into account the density of the frame, we can assume that the tourists started the installation of the tent around 5 pm 1.II.59.

A similar picture was taken with another camera.

After this time, no records and no photos were found.

According to the protocol of the route committee, the group leader, Igor Dyatlov, 12.II.59, was to telegraphically inform the sports club of the UPI and the Committee of Physical Education (comrade Ufimtsev) on arrival of the group in the village of Vizhay.

Since the deadline of 12.II.59 passed, and no information was received from the group, the tourists who knew Dyatlov closely demanded a search to start, and on 20.II.59 the Institute's leadership on the Dyatlov route sent a search team, and then several more groups.

Subsequently, soldiers and officers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, planes and helicopters of civil and military aviation joined the search operation.

On February 26, 1959, on the eastern slope of the peak "1079" the group's tent was found with all the equipment and food in it.

The tent and all that was in it were well preserved.

Inspection of the tent showed that it was set correctly and provided accommodation for the hikers.

In the tent there were 2 blankets, backpacks, storm jackets and trousers.

The rest of the blankets were crumpled and frozen.

On the blanket were found several loin pieces.

Location and availability of items in the tent (almost all shoes, all outer clothing, personal belongings and diaries) indicated that the tent was abandoned suddenly by all tourists at the same time, and, as it was established in the subsequent forensic expertise, the lee side of the tent, where tourists usually laid their heads, it was cut from the inside in two places providing a free exit of the person through these cuts.

Case file page 386

Below the tent, for up to 500 meters in the snow, traces of people walking from the tent to the valley and into the forest have been preserved.

The traces were well preserved and there were 8-9 pairs.

Inspection of the tracks showed that some of them were almost barefoot (for example, in one cotton sock), others had a typical footprint of felt boots, legs covered in a soft sock, etc.

Prints of tracks were located close to each other, converging and again separated one from another.

Closer to the border of the forest, the footprints were covered with snow and disappeared.

Neither traces of a struggle nor presence of other people were found in the tent or near it.

26.II.59 in 1500 meters from the tent, at the forest boundary, the remains of a fire are found, and near it were the bodies of Doroshenko and Krivonischenko, stripped to the underwear.

At 300 meters from the makeshift fire, in the direction of the tent, was found the body of Dyatlov, 180 meters away from him - the body of Slobodin, and 150 meters from Slobodin - Kolmogorova body.

The last three bodies were located on a straight line from the fire to the tent.

Dyatlov lay on his backs, his head in the direction of the tent, his hands clasping the trunk of a small birch.

Slobodin and Kolmogorov lay face down, their pose testified that they were crawling to the tent.

Money and personal effects (pens, pencils, etc.) were found in the pockets of Kolmogorova, Dyatlov and Slobodin.

On his left hand pointing outwards Slobodin was wearing a watch that stopped at 8:45.

Dyatlov's watch showed 5:31.

Forensic medical examination found that Dyatlov, Doroshenko, Krivonischenko and Kolmogorova died from exposure to low temperature (frozen), none of them had physical injuries, not counting minor scratches and abrasions.

Slobodin had a crack in the skull 6 cm long, which had spread to 0.1 cm, but Slobodin died from freezing.

May 4, 1959, 75 meters from the campfire, in the direction of the valley of the fourth tributary of Lozva, i.e. perpendicular to the way of tourists from the tent, under a layer of snow 4-4.5 meters, the bodies of Dubinina, Zolotaryov, Thibeaux-Brignolle and Kolevatov were found.

On the bodies, as well as a few meters from them, Krivonischenko and Doroshenko's clothes were found - trousers, sweaters.

All clothing has traces of smooth cuts, as already photographed with the bodies of Doroshenko and Krivonischenko.

The dead Thibeaux Brignolle and Zolotaryov were found well-dressed, worse dressed Dubinina - her jacket made of artificial fur and a cap were found on Zolotaryov, Dubinina's naked leg was wrapped in Krivonischenko's woolen pants.

Near the bodies, Krivonischenko's knife was found, which cut off the young firs near the fire.

On the hand of Thibeaux-Brignolle were two watches - one of them shows 8:14, and the second - 8:39.

Forensic evidence of bodies revealed that Kolevatov's death had come from the effect of low temperature (frozen), Kolevatov had no physical injuries.

The death of Dubinina, Thibeaux-Brignolle and Zolotaryov was the result of multiple physical injuries.

Dubinina has a semimetric fracture of the ribs: on the right 2, 3, 4, 5 and left 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

In addition she has extensive hemorrhage in the heart.

Case file page 387

Thibeaux-Brignolle has an extensive hemorrhage in the right temporal muscle - corresponding to him - a crushed fracture of the skull bones measuring 3x7 cm, with a bone defect 3x2 cm.

Zolotaryov has a broken ribs on the right 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 along the parasternal and midaxillary lines, which caused his death.

The investigation did not establish the presence of other people on February 1 or February 2, 1959 in the area of ​​the height "1079", except the tourists from Dyatlov group.

It is also established that the population of the Mansi people, living in 80-100 km from this place, is Russian friendly, offers tourists accommodation, assistance etc.

The place where the group died is considered to be unfit for hunting and reindeer breeding in the winter.

Considering the absence of external injuries to the bodies or signs of a fight, the presence of all the valuables of the group, and also taking into account the conclusion of the medical examinations for the causes of the deaths of the tourists, it is concluded that the cause of their demise was overwhelming force, which the tourists were not able to overcome.

For the shortcomings in the organization of tourist work and weak control of the bureau of the Sverdlovsk GC the CPSU punished in party terms: the director of the Ural Polytechnic Institute Siunov, the secretary of the party bureau Zaostrovsky, the chairman of the trade union UPK Slobodin, the chairman of the city union of voluntary sports societies Kurochkin and the inspector of the union Ufimtsev.

The chairman of the board of the sports club of the Gordo Institute has been removed from work.

Given that between the actions of the above-mentioned persons who have committed shortcomings in the formulation of sports work and the death of tourists there is no causal connection and, not seeing in this case the corpus delicti, guided by paragraph 5 of Article 4 of the RSFSR Code of Criminal Procedure,

Ruled:

The criminal case on the death of the group of tourists and further proceedings are to be terminated.

PROSECUTOR CRIMINALIST
JR. ADVISER OF JUSTICE (IVANOV)

AGREED:
DEPUTY CHIEF OF THE INVESTIGATIVE DEPARTMENT
ADVISER OF JUSTICE (LUKIN)

Andrey Pavlovich Kirilenko - First Secretary of the Sverdlovsk Regional Committee of the Communist Party

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Lev Ivanov continues to ask questions to Vozrozhdenny the day the case is closed

The Dyatlov case was closed, but investigator Lev Ivanov asked forensic medical examiner expert Vozrozhdenny, additional questions about the autopsy reports, and received some interesting information:

1. From what kind of force could Thibeaux-Brignolle have received such injury?
   From what kind of force could Thibeaux-Brignolle have received such injury?
   Answer: In the conclusion, it’s shown the damage to Thibeaux-Brignolle’s head could have been the result of the throwing, fall or jettisoning of the body. I don’t believe these wounds could have been the result of Thibeaux-Brignolle simply falling from the level of his own height, i.e. falling and hitting his head. The extensive, depressed, multi-splintered (broken fornix and base of the skull) fracture could be the result of an impact of an automobile moving at high speed. This kind of trauma could have occurred if Thibeaux-Brignolle had been thrown and fallen and hit his head against rocks, ice, etc., by a gust of strong wind.
2. Is it possible that Thibeaux-Brignolle was hit by a rock that was in someone’s hand?
3. Is it possible that Thibeaux-Brignolle was hit by a rock that was in someone’s hand?
   Answer: In this case, there would have been damage to the soft tissue, and this was not evident.
4. How long could Thibeaux-Brignolle have lived after the trauma. Could he have moved on his own, talked, etc.?
   How long could Thibeaux-Brignolle have lived after the trauma. Could he have moved on his own, talked, etc.?
   Answer: After this trauma, Thibeaux-Brignolle would have had a severe concussion; that is, he would have been in an unconscious state. Moving him would have been difficult and, close to the end, movement would not have been possible. I believe he would not have been able to move even if he had been helped. He could only have been carried or dragged. He could have shown signs of life for 2-3 hours.
5. How is it possible to explain the cause of the damage to Dubinina and Zolotaryov? Is it possible to combine them into one cause.
   How is it possible to explain the cause of the damage to Dubinina and Zolotaryov? Is it possible to combine them into one cause.
   Answer: I think the character of the injuries on Dubinina and Zolotaryov – a multiple fracture of the ribs – on Dubinina were bilateral and symmetrical, and on Zolotaryov were one-sided. Both had hemorrhaging into the cardiac muscle with hemorrhaging into the pleural cavity, which is evidence of them being alive [when injured] and is the result of the action of a large force, similar to the example used for Thibeaux-Brignolle. These injuries, especially appearing in such a way without any damage to the soft tissue of the chest, are very similar to the type of trauma that results from the shock wave of a bomb.
6. How long could Dubinina and Zolotaryov have lived?
   How long could Dubinina and Zolotaryov have lived?
   Answer: Dubinina died 10-20 minutes after the trauma. She could have been conscious. Sometimes it happens that a person with a wound to the heart (for example, a serious knife wound) can talk, run and ask for help. Dubinina’s situation was one of complicated traumatic shock resulting from the bilateral rib fracture, followed by internal hemorrhaging into the pleural cavity. Zolotaryov could have lived longer. It needs to be taken into account that they were all trained, physically fit, and strong people.

Regional bureau forensic pathologist Vozrozhdenny (signature) 05/29/1959

Boris Alexandrovich Vozrozhdenny - forensic medical expert of the Regional forensic bureau

Vozrozhdenny Boris Alexandrovich (born 1922) - forensic expert (since 1954) of the Regional forensic medical bureau.

Together with forensic expert Ganz, he carried out the autopsy and the description of the corpses found on the slope of the Kholat Syakhl mountain in March-May 1959.

He prepared the conclusions given in the autopsy reports.

The autopsy reports, signed by the Vozrozhdenny, are in the criminal case about the death of tourists of the Dyatlov group.

In May 1959, Vozrozhdenny flew in a helicopter to the place of discovery of the last four bodies.

With regard to the autopsies, opinions were divided.

Some researchers believe that Vozrozhdenny has deliberately omitted some details pointing to the radiological reason for the death of the Dyatlov group, while others recall that it was precisely from the autopsy reports - undoubtedly the most valuable documents in this case - that it became known that there were serious bodily injuries, incompatible with life, on Slobodin, Dubinina, Thibeaux-Brignolle and Zolotaryov.

In addition, the documents indicate that Lyudmila Dubinina was missing her tongue.

There are testimonies of eyewitnesses that after each autopsy, experts and witnesses "from the authorities" dipped into a barrel of alcohol, so as not to get infected.

When they finished investigating the bodies of the first five and brought out the verdict of hypothermia as the cause of death, the whole team got drunk.

This is the moment portrayed in the header image from “Dyatlov Pass - end of story” movie.

Some modern researchers interpret these facts differently - some believe that the autopsies were conducted in a state of intoxication.

Activists of the Dyatlov case have been persistently calling for the exhumation of the corpses and conducting a second investigation.

They may just have recently gotten their wish.

On April 12, 2018 Komsomolskaya Pravda, per request of the relatives, exhumed the body of Semyon Zolotaryov at Ivanovskoe Cemetery in Yekaterinburg for the purpose of identification.

The superimposition performed by expert Sergey Nikitin at the cemetery comparing the skull with a known post war photograph of Semyon Zoltaryov shows perfect match (more information).

The first DNA test results aired by Russian Channel 1 on May 16, 2018 exclude kinship of the person laying in Zolotaryov’s grave with Zolotaryov’s niece Tatyana Skulbeda, daughter of Semyon’s sister (more information).

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May 29 - Histological Analyses

The case was terminated before all test came out.

 

Histological Analysis №66/602

Case file page 358 dated 29/V 1959

Under the order of Forensic medical expert Vozrozhdenny an examination was carried out in the histological department of the Sverdlovsk Region of pieces of skin, bones and internal organs from the body of of Thibeaux-Brignolle N.V., 23 years old, to resolve the issue of hemorrhages.

Hematoxylin and Eosin, and Wright-Giemsa staining.

Microscopic examination
The sternum with the surrounding soft tissues - In soft tissues hemorrhages are not visible, red bone marrow in a state of putrefaction.

Rib - Blood between the bone beams in the state of putrefaction.

Skin - Epidermis is absent, in the dermis of hemorrhage with the presence of brown pigment.

Thyroid gland with surrounding muscles - In soft tissues hemorrhages are not visible, iron in a state of putrefaction.

Conclusion Hemorrhage in the skin (in the dermis).

29/V 1959 Forensic medical expert Ganz

Histological Analysis №64/600

Case file page 359 dated 29/V 1959

Under the order of Forensic medical expert Vozrozhdenny an examination was carried out in the histological department of the Sverdlovsk Region of pieces of skin, bones and internal organs from the body of Kolevatov A.S., 24 years old, to resolve the issue of the presence of hemorrhages.

Hematoxylin and Eosin, and Wright-Giemsa staining.

Microscopic examination
Part of the costal bone with surrounding soft tissues - Bone is an ordinary structure, hemorrhages are not visible in surrounding soft tissues, pronounced putrefaction.

Skin - The epidermis is flattened, visible only along the edges of the drug, in the derma of hemorrhages it is not visible.

Kidney - Putrid changes.

Heart - Presence of gaps between myocardial fibers

Conclusion In the sent pieces of skin, bones and internal organs from the body of Kolevatov, hemorrhages were not detected.

29/V 1959 Forensic medical expert Ganz

Histological Analysis №65/601

Case file page 360

Under the order of Forensic medical expert Vozrozhdenny an examination was carried out in the histological department of the Sverdlovsk Region of pieces of skin, bones and internal organs from the body of A. Zolotaryov A.A., 37 years old, to resolve the issue of the presence of hemorrhages.

Hematoxylin and Eosin, and Wright-Giemsa staining.

Microscopic examination
Part of the sternum with surrounding soft tissues - Hemorrhages are not visible.

Part of the edge with the surrounding soft tissues - Putrefactive changes, in the soft tissues bone fragments and hemorrhages are visible, there is no cellular reaction.

Skin - Absence of superficial layers of the epidermis, in places its complete absence, in the dermis of hemorrhage with the presence of brown pigment and shadows of cells, putrefactive changes.

Muscle - Putrid changes.

Heart - Cracks between myocardial fibers, plethora of blood vessels, diapedemic hemorrhages.

The back of Case file page 360 dated 29/V 1959

ConclusionHemorrhages in the skin (in the dermis), heart muscle and soft tissues, in the region of the rib fracture without a cellular reaction.

29/V 1959 Forensic medical expert Ganz

Histological Analysis №67/603

Case file page 361 dated 29/V 1959

Under the order of Forensic medical expert Vozrozhdenny an examination was carried out in the histological department of the Sverdlovsk Region of pieces of skin, bones and internal organs from the body of Dubinina L.A., 21, to solve the question of the presence of hemorrhages.

Hematoxylin and Eosin, and Wright-Giemsa staining.

Microscopic examination
Rib - A transverse fracture of the rib with a hemorrhage at the site of the fracture, without a cellular reaction.

Hyoid bone - Hemorrhages are not visible

Skin - The epidermis is completely absent in places, hemorrhages with presence of brown pigment and shadows of cells are visible in the dermis.

Heart - The gap between the fibers of the myocardium, small hemorrhages in the myocardium.

Conclusion Hemorrhages in the skin (in the dermis), hemorrhage at the site of the rib fracture without a cellular reaction, small hemorrhages in the myocardium.

29/V 1959 Forensic medical expert Ganz

* Header image is from “Dyatlov Pass - end of story” movie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Lev Ivanov continues to ask questions to Levashov after the case is closed

After the Dyatlov case was closed, the investigator Lev Ivanov asked the expert chief radiologist of Sverdlovsk Levashov additional questions about his radiological examination:

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO THE EXPERT:

1. Should there be (can it be) increased contamination of clothing with radioactive substances under normal conditions, i.e. without being in a radioactively contaminated environment or place?
   Should there be (can it be) increased contamination of clothing with radioactive substances under normal conditions, i.e. without being in a radioactively contaminated environment or place?
   Answer: Definitely not.
2. Was there any contamination of the objects you are researching?
   Was there any contamination of the objects you are researching?
   Answer: As stated in the conclusion, there is a contamination of radioactive substances (substance) by the beta emitters of individual, selectable areas of clothing, sent samples. Thus, for example, the cut from №4 - the brown sweater at the time of the study had 9900 beta-particles decays per minute at 150 cm2, and after washing (for 3 hours in our room), he gave 5,200 decays per minute of beta particles with 150 cm2. For example, according to the sanitary rules that exist in our country, the contamination in beta particles from 150 square centimeters per minute should not exceed 5000 cleavages (washing), and after cleaning (washing) there should be a natural background, e. as much as it gives cosmic radiation to all people and all objects in a given locality, this is the norm for workers with radioactive substances. Piece from №1 - the waistband of the sweater shows up to wash 5600 decays, and after washing - 2700. The bottom of the trousers from №1 shows 5000 decays before washing and 2600 after washing. In your data it is indicated that all these objects were in the flowing water for a long time before the study, i.e. have already been washed.
3. Is it possible to consider that this clothing is contaminated with radioactive dust?
   Is it possible to consider that this clothing is contaminated with radioactive dust?
   Answer: Yes, clothes are contaminated or radioactive dust dropped from the atmosphere, or this garment has been exposed to contamination when working with radioactive substances, or on contact. This pollution exceeds, as I have already indicated, the norm for persons working with radioactive substances.
4. What do you think, what could be the degree of contamination of individual objects, if you take into account that prior to research they had been in the running water for about 15 days.
   What do you think, what could be the degree of contamination of individual objects, if you take into account that prior to research they had been in the running water for about 15 days.
   Answer: It can be assumed that the contamination of individual garments was many times greater, but here one must take into account that clothes could be washed unevenly, that is, with varying degrees of intensity

Expert: chief radiologist of the city of Levashov (signed) 05/29/1959

In order to determine whether the radiological contamination of clothes was beta-particles, compare the indices of its contamination with the data of the sanitary and radiation survey conducted on June 25, 1959 in the village of Tatar Karabolka, which is located only 30-40 kilometers from the Mayak enterprise, and which September 29, 1957, the first was on the way of a deadly cloud from a radiation explosion.

In 1959, secret order № 546SS syas that residents of Tatar Karabolka must be urgently resettled because of dangerous radiation contamination.

In this area in 1959 there was an increased level of radiation, measurements of contamination of household items as follows:

The indicators of contamination with beta particles of clothes of Dyatlov group members exceeded the maximum indices of β-removable pollution of household items in the polluted by radiation emissions of the village of Tatar Karabolka up to 50 times! Why?

Considering the fact that the clothes with β-contamination were washed in the flowing water of the stream for 3 months, these are high radioactivity values for the terrain where radioactivity is not present - the mountainous terrain far from pollution sites.

In addition to clothing, radiometric measurements of solid biosubstrates (bodies of the dead) were conducted using a B-2 (№ 2554) installation in a lead house with a BFA-25 meter.

The unit was calibrated according to the strontium preparation with activity:
1) 7000 rpm
2) 2000 rpm

Set conversion ratio = 5.5

Forensic medical expert Vozrozhdenny obtained control samples of tissues of a person who died in motor vehicle accident in Sverdlovsk.

The presence of the natural radiological element of potassium-40 was in approximately the same amounts Table №3 as in the bodies of dead tourists Table №1.

However, it has to be taken in consideration that:

1. Control samples were biosubstrates of the lung, and in the samples of dead tourists this organ was absent. The lungs, like other respiratory organs, obviously did not examine, and it is in the lungs, the trachea, the bronchi and the nasopharynx that radioactive particles are deposited.
   
   Radioactive particles when inhaled are usually localized at different levels of the respiratory tract, depending on the particle size. Particles from 0 3 to 0 micron are retained in the alveoli, about 6-20 microns in bronchioles, 20-60 microns in the bronchi, and particles larger than 60 microns in the upper respiratory tract.
2. In addition to the lungs, the dead had not been examined yet a very important organ - the thyroid gland.
   
   The thyroid gland is a very important organ that suffers first of all during the radioactive irradiation of the human body 131J.
   Iodine, as a substance, is extremely selectively deposited in the thyroid gland.
   After ingress of 131J into the human body, the radioactivity of the thyroid gland can exceed the radioactivity of all other tissues by more than 200 times! Acute radiation injuries of a severe, moderate and mild degree in an adult can be expected with oral intake of 131J in an amount of 55, 18 and 5 MBq / kg body weight. The toxicity of the radionuclide with inhalation intake is approximately two times higher, which is associated with a larger area of ​​contact beta radiation.
   
   All organs and systems are involved in the pathological process, but especially severe damages occur in the thyroid gland, where the highest doses are formed.
   
   The thyroid gland of the victims who died during the examination was not investigated, but as noted above, the expert Vozrozhdenny recorded in the autopsy reports that the aorta passing into the thyroid gland of the dead was greatly expanded.

Due to the fact that the biosubstrates of the lung and the thyroid gland of the dead for any reason were not given to the radiologist Levashov, on the basis of the incomplete data provided to him, he conducted an examination and made the following conclusion:

1. The content of radioactive materials in analyzed solid biosubstartes is within the natural level (and is due to the presence of isotope K-40).
2. The analyzed samples of clothing carry slightly excessive amounts of radioactive substances being the source of Beta-emission.
3. The detected radioactive materials or radioactive substance show a tendency to washing-off in the course of clothing samples washing, i.e., they are not due to a neutron flux or induced radiation, but rather to radioactive contamination of Beta-particles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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TIBO BROKEN WINGS - part 1

All rights belong to Maria Piskareva

Russian engineer.

 

Great-grandson of the French architect.

 

How amazing and interesting life is!

It takes you to people that you you never thought or even dreamt of meeting.

But the God reads our souls and sends us "a telegram".

So I had a meeting with Nikolai Thibault.

I really like him a lot, and probably more than anybody else from Dyatlov group.

But I did not know anything about him, Kolya's relatives never gave interviews, it even seemed to me that they were no longer alive, and the branch of the Thibeaux-Brignolle had long been broken.

Journalist Gennady Grigoriev, who for some time took part in the search for the young hikers and made a heart breaking account of the events in this cold and terrible winter of 1959, said memorable words that many can identify with, including me: "You became like my own dear children!"

Anna Matveeva was the pioneer, no matter how strange it may sound, she wrote a beautiful story about the the human aspect of that terrible tragedy.

One can help but shudder when reading the episode from the book, describing the call at her door late at night.

She looked through the peephole and saw the entire dead group standing in front of her door.

When she dared to open the door to them, there was already no one on the landing, only the pools of melted snow on the floor ...

A stunning scene.

I had a dream, in the very first days, when I learned about the tragedy of Igor Dyatlov's group, could not sleep for a long time, was under strong impression from what I had read.

I didn't really know anything yet, even confused their names until "the names, like wounds, left scars in my heart that won't heal" ...

I dreamed that same cedar, near which there was no one.

Events have already occurred.

It was twilight, I remember the feeling of longing and irreversible loss.

Cedar was everywhere scattered with needles and twigs from the spruce tree, the snow was tampered from the many people who had been there.

And a voice from somewhere above to the right told me: "Pay attention to Thibault."

Why Thibault?

I did not know and I still don't know till the day.

This is a mystery to me.

"So that your youth is renewed like the eagle..." Psalm 103:5

A year later while in St. Petersburg, I went to my favorite place - the library.

And there, at the very entrance to the reading room, on an empty table lay three blue volumes of Roger Martin du Gara's The Thibaut Family.

I even shuddered - it was a sign!

And in these very days I receive a letter from Anna Yermolaeva, a relative of Nikolai Thibault.

My heart start beating in my chest, I was already waiting for some development related to Kolya.

Just did not know what it would be.

The letter was like news from Kolya from that distant past.

So the Lord sent me an acquaintance with good, very interesting people - relatives of NicNikolai Thibeaux-Brignolle.

Anna wrote to me that she read our discussions with Gennady Ivanovich Kizilov in Samizdat and would like to support me in the situation of the conflict with G. Nikishina about a document I published related to the trek of the group.

It turns out that in 2007, Mrs. Nikishina via genealogy site tracked down Marina Evgenyevna Kazantseva and, from her words, recorded the history of the genus Thibeaux-Brignolle.

This condensed story is the result of Marina Evgenyevna's many years of searching for and studying archival documents about the Thibault family.

Unfortunately, the information shared with Mrs. Nikishina was published without mentioning Kolya family as a source, which caused some confusion.

In addition, there were some biographical inaccuracies in the publication.

I asked Anna and Marina Evgenyevna to give a short interview, to tell what they know about the Thibeaux-Brignolle family in Russia, what is known about Kolya, about his childhood and youth.

About his very short life, so tragically cut off on the slope of Mount Kholat Syakhl.

Anna and Marina Evgenyevna kindly agreed to answer my questions.

For which I am very grateful!

Thanks to them I learned so much new and interesting facts about that time.

And I have a new wonderful interlocutor on many topics - Anna Ermolaeva, second cousin of Nikolai Thibault, which acquaintance I cherish.

Anna Ermolaeva, second cousin of Nikolai Thibeaux-Brignolle

Notations in the text:
MEK - Marina Evgenyevna Kazantseva
SEK - Sergey Evgenyevich Kazantsev, brother of Marina Evgenyevna
AE - Anna Ermolaeva
MP - Maria Piskareva

MP: Marina Evgenievna, please tell us what is your kinship with Nikolai, which branch of the family are you from?

MEK: For me, Nikolai Thibault is a cousin and uncle.

Colin's father - Vladimir Iosifovich - and my own grandmother - Anna Iosifovna - are brother and sister.

Anna Iosifovna Ivanova (Thibeaux-Brignolle), Kolya Thibault native aunt, in the apartment on Gorkogo Street, 7, Sverdlovsk, January 1927. Archive Kazantseva M.E.

Kazantseva Olga Andreevna, Kolya Thibault cousin, daughter of Anna Iosifovna Ivanova (Thibeaux-Brignolle). Resort "Lake Gorkogo", July 1949. Archive Kazantseva M.E.

Olga Andreevna Kazantseva, Kolya Thibault cousin, with her son Sergey 1969

MP: You know Muzafarova Elizaveta Iosifovna, who identified his things?

MEK: I know Elizaveta Iosifovna Muzafarova very well This is the sister of my grandmother Anna Iosifovna.

Iosifovich siblings were eight.

One child died as an infant, at the age of 31, Ekaterina Iosifovna died from consumption.

There are three sisters and three brothers left: Natalia, Elizaveta, Anna, Vladimir, Sergey, Dmitry.

Anna Iosifovna Thibeaux-Brignolle is my grandmother, her daughter Olga - Kolya's cousin, is my mother.

Anna Ermolaeva is my daughter.

MP: Thank you, Marina Evgenyevna!

Now that we have sorted out your relationship, please tell us about yourself how did you started reseraching the history of the Thibeaux-Brignolle genus in Russia?

MEK: I grew up in the Urals, in the city of Kamensk-Uralsky, but I got my education in Moscow and have lived here for a long time (I graduated from the Moscow Textile Institute with a degree in textile design).

My parents spent their entire lives in the Urals.

In the Soviet Union very few people knew the history of their ancestors, there was no access to the archives; they were discovered in 1990, but few knew how to search.

There was not popular.

In 1989, German Vitalyevich Gasselblat, a retired major of militia, came to the Urals from the Leningrad, and began the process of rehabilitating the repressed people in the case of the Industrial Party (both his grandfather and Kolya Thibault's father were repressed in this case).

Having lived in Yekaterinburg for ten years, he taught many people how to conduct a genealogical search, inspired people to compile their pedigrees, in fact he created from scratch the genealogical movement in the Urals, was the inspiration for the creation of the Urals genealogical society.

G. V. Gasselblat held a conference in Sverdlovsk in memory of all Ural engineers who suffered from repression.

My mother, Olga Andreevna, after passing the school of Gasselblat, for ten years collected information in the Urals according to our Ural ancestors: mining engineers Denisov, Ivanov, Devi, Frese, Kulibin, Thibeaux-Brignolle.

According to the Thibeaux-Brignolle, traces led to Orel and Petersburg.

After the death of my mother in 2001, I met my mother's friends-genealogists in Sverdlovsk, with Hasselblatt in St. Petersburg.

He taught me how to search, drove through archives and libraries in St. Petersburg.

And now, since 2002 I have been engaged in archival searches in Orel, Petersburg, Moscow, Ekaterinburg, Bryansk, Anapa for the tenth year.

And my daughter Anna is in Paris, Nantes, Brignole, Petersburg. Something is on the Internet.

I enter the Moscow Historical-Pedigree Society, made two reports on the Savyol Readings about our French ancestors. In Yekaterinburg, the magazine Vesi published in 2009 (numbers 7-8) the article "Memories of the Ural Teacher" on the notes of my mother in 2001, under my editorship.

A book about our French ancestors will soon be ready for all the archival materials found.

MP: Tell us, please, about Kolya's ancestors, about the very machinist Thibault, who came to Russia and laid the foundation for a new Russian branch of Thibault's name, about Kolya's father, Vladimir Iosifovich, about his mother.

MEK: Kolya’s great-grandfather - Francois Thibault - came to Russia and settled in St. Petersburg at the very beginning of the XIX century.

It was a young Frenchman who knew Russian not very well, with a penchant for mechanics and inventiveness.

Francois married Theresa Holmers, who came to Russia from Holstein with her parents.

He managed to make a career in Russia.

He did not return to France.

According to archival data, first Francois Thibault worked in the Directorate of the Imperial Theaters of St. Petersburg as a carpenter, then as a stage engineer, a mechanic.

For ten years, from 1829 to 1839, he served as the chief machinist-mechanic of the Directorate of the St. Petersburg Imperial Theaters.

Kolya’s great-grandfather was academician of architecture Iosif Franzevich Thibeaux-Brignolle, architect of the city of Orla.

There are still preserved buildings built on his projects.

The city of Orel. Ul. Gurtieva, house 8., built by the project of great-grandfather Kolya, I. F. Thibeaux-Brignolle

Stone house made of rubble stone, built in 1861-62, for Colonel AM Osipov.

The initial project is Thibeaux-Brignolle.

Later the architect Morozov attached a portico.

Now here there is a hospital of the Internal Affairs Directorate of the Orel region.

At the same time, Kolya's grandfather, the mining engineer Joseph Thibeaux-Brignolle, moved to the Urals.

Iosif Iosifovich Thibeaux-Brignolle is Kolya's grandfather. Here he is 46 years old. Ekaterinburg, 1897. Inscription on the back: "To the esteemed colleague Alexei Illarionovich Ignatiev from the loving Joseph Thibeaux-Brignolle, 1897, September 21". Archive Kazantseva M.E.

Kolya's mother, Anastasia Prokhorovna Bautina, was born in the South Urals to the family of the blacksmith Bautin Prokhor Yakovlevich, who worked all his life at the Petropavlovsk Zlatoustsky Uyezd Plant.

Anastasia Prohorovna received higher education, graduating in 1942 from the Central Moscow Distance Learning Course in St. Petersburg.

Anastasia Prohorovna, a teacher by vocation, taught German.

She worked in primary school, then in secondary school for 30 years.

Kolya's father, Vladimir Iosifovich Thibeaux-Brignolle, was a mining engineer.

In his student years, Vladimir Iosifovich took part in student unrest, was under arrest, hunger striker, was deported to Vologda province, and then - outside Russia.

As a result, he received a diploma of mining engineer at the Mining Academy in Freiberg, Germany.

Returning to Russia, Vladimir Iosifovich served as a mining engineer, participated in the restoration of mountain mines destroyed during the First World War and the Civil War.

There are documents where employees of the restored enterprises thank him, a lot of good is written.

Vladimir Iosifovich participated in the creation of the project "Magnitogorsk" - the largest metallurgical enterprise in Europe at that time.

Grandfather G.V. Gasselblat was the director.

The builders of "Magnitogorsk" were subjected to repression in the early 30s.

In January 1931, Vladimir Iosifovich was arrested and sent to SIBLAG (Novosibirsk).

At this time in Sverdlovsk, his wife and two children were evicted from their own cooperative apartment.

Fortunately, they were sheltered by a former subordinate of Vladimir Iosifovich, a technician Leonid Kataev.

Leonid's wife's name was Augusta Dmitrievna, and her daughter was Marousia (Maria).

These people are very risky, helping the family “the enemy of the people”.

When the development of Prokopyevsky and Osinovsky mines began in Siberia, Vladimir Iosifovich was transferred to the Osinovsky mine and worked there in the mine together with other prisoners.

A year later, in June 1933, he was reincarnated and transferred to the position of chief of the technical department in the mining area of the mine.

His wife and son Volodya were allowed to come to him and live in the village of Osinniki.

And Elizabeth's daughter was already 17 years old, and she worked in Sverdlovsk.

July 5, 1935 in Osinniki son Kolya was born.

However, in 1937 repression intensified. In 1938, Vladimir Iosifovich was sent to the deep taiga, to Gornaya Shoriya for heavy work - the construction of an iron ore deposit.

His wife and children stayed in Osinniki and waited for the end of his ten-year term.

In January 1941, Vladimir Iosifovich returned to Osinovsky mine and got a job, already as a civilian, as a projector of the Molotovugol Trust.

In August 1942, he was sent to Tashkent.

However, he was never recruited anywhere, although he traveled to the mines seven times.

He did not have the funds for further travel and for life.

The wife sent the money back.

He returned to the Kuzbass, to his family.

After all the trials, losses and humiliations, his strength was undermined.

He fell ill and died in the hospital in September 1943.

He was 57 years old.

Vladimir Iosifovich Thibeaux-Brignolle was fully rehabilitated by the Decree of 11.04.91.

Vladimir Iosifovich Thibeaux-Brignolle. Photo on the day of the arrest on January 7, 1931. From the personal file of the NKVD was received by his daughter E. V. Thibeaux-Brignolle

MP: How all this is sad and typical for Stalin's time.

On the example of the tragedy of one person, one family, one can draw analogies with the millions of families affected by the communist regime.

Anna, please tell me, and did Kolya's mom go to the camp?

Recently in one of the forums in thread about Kolya's biography someone claimed that he was born in a camp.

MEK: This is not true.

Only Kolya's father, Vladimir Iosifovich, was sent to a camp.

His wife and children lived in Sverdlovsk, and then - in Osinniki.

MP: You said that G. Nikishina made a number of inaccuracies when she published information about Kolya's family on the Internet.

What are they?

I would like to understand and correct these mistakes.

MEK: She wrote about the French ancestor of Kolya, that "the stage engineer Thibeaux-Brignolle came to Russia."

In fact, a person who came to Russia was called François Thibeaux, the prefix "Brignolle" will appear much later, from his sons.

Another inaccuracy about the biography of Kolya's father: "Vladimir Thibeaux-Brignolle chose his father's profession for himself, entered the St. Petersburg Mining Institute."

In fact, Vladimir chose another institute and another profession: the St. Petersburg Polytechnic Institute, the shipbuilding department.

But after his expulsion from Russia for participation in student movements, he was educated at the Higher Academy in Freiberg, Germany.

MP: As I understood, the Brignolle prefix means a city in France?

When was it addet to the name of Thibault?

AE: Maya, the question is interesting because the researcg on the matter was done by no other but Kolya's father himself, Vladimir Iosifovich.

In the last years of his mother's life, he recorded her memories of the family's history.

We know that the prefix "Brignolle" added to the "Thibault", which created a unique family name belonging to only one family, appeared in the children of the machinist Thibault, and not all.

The first documentary evidence is from 1839.

There are many spellings of the name Thibault in French (Thibeaux, Thibeault, Thibault, etc.), but in Russian they are all pronounced and written in the same way.

At that time in Petersburg there were other Frenchmen named Thibault, although with another French writing, including a well-known sculptor.

The desire was natural for the sons of our machinist, who actively pursued a career in Russia, to change their surname so that they would not be confused with other Frenchmen.

It would be logical if the choice of the prefix "Brignolle" was explained by the origin of the machinist Thibault.

According to the written memoirs of my grandmother Kolya, the first Thibault came from the French town of Brignolles.

However, Vladimir Iosifovich's hand made a remark "is doubtful."

It is possible that, living in Europe in the early XX century, Vladimir Iosifovich checked the Brignolle archive and did not find any traces of his ancestor.

This year I worked in the archives of the French Foreign Ministry in Paris, Nantes, and found a number of documents where the birthplace of François Thibault was also indicated by the city of Brignolles.

It is a small picturesque town in the south of France, in Provence, with a population of about 15 thousand inhabitants.

The town of Brignolle in France, Provence. Caramy Square, June 2012

I was there twice, I checked the church book of records of births, deaths, marriages, but did not find our Thibault there.

This is almost a detective story: in documents (I found a file in the archives of the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs about marriage and children of F. Thibault), he indicated that he was from Brignolle.

But in Brignolle there are no records in church books about him!

I have ideas for new searches, but so far the birthplace of F. Thibault and the reason for choosing Brignolle as the second part of the family name is a mystery.

MP: Anna, don't you think Kolya's date of birth published on the web is wrong - June 5.

The same date stands on the grave pedestal, in the cemetery where Kolya and his comrades are buried.

You mentioned another date of birth - July 5.

I looked at all the known archival documents published on the Internet by the Memory of Dyatlov group Foundation and found out that the questionnaire, where the wrong date of birth was written - June 5 - and there on his date automatically moved to the grave plate, was filled not by Kolya himself, but by the Human Resources Officer, it is evident from the handwriting that it was a woman.

And in one of the documents it is noticeable that the personnel officer wrote the letter "l" as the letter "n".

Recording by the hand of the personnel officer. Date of birth: June 5

Handwritten by a personnel officer. Not clear it it is "n" or "l".

Kolya himself clearly wrote by hand in his autobiography that he was born on July 5th.

And here the month of July is marked with Roman numerals, no mistake in the letter here!

AE: Maya, yes, we are sure that the correct date is July 5, as it was written by Kolya's hand, while other papers were filled by the clerk and made a mistake.

MP: Some researchers wonder why the family did not require a correction of the date, at least on the monument?

MEK: His birthday was known only to his mother and sister - my aunt Lyusya.

But Kolya's grave was in Sverdlovsk, and they lived far away, in Kemerovo.

His mother was a sick woman, exhausted by adversity.

She could not physically come to Sverdlovsk and never saw Kolya's grave.

Letter from A. P. Thibeaux-Brignolle, Nikolai's mother, to relatives of Rustem Slobodin

Only Kolya's elder sister came to Sverdlovsk, for a short while, since she worked at the plant and was very disciplined.

For sure, his sister gave the correct information for the grave, but it was transferred with a discrepancy, clerk error, and the sister could not sit and wait, she was due to get back to her work.

The rest of the relatives did not know Kolya's date of birth.

All were scattered in different cities, all his cousins were much older than him.

One sister in Kharkov (Elizaveta Iosifovna's eldest daughter) never met him at all, she married and left Sverdlovsk before Kolya arrived from Kemerovo.

But the main reason was that for all relatives, the death of Kolya was a terrible, very painful tragedy.

In the light of this pain, the meticulous immediacy to find out why he died, when exactly, and where exactly, was only for outsiders.

And even more to clarify his birthday.

After all, he was born, then to die so monstrously!

The date of birth is important to celebrate, for example, the 90th anniversary of the now-living person.

If someone had commented on Kolya's grave that there was a mistake in the date of his birth, others could have reprimanded him: "Don't you think about that now!"

AE: I was interested in Kolya's date of birth for another reason - this summer I found new information in the archives of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs about one of the grandsons and great-grandsons of the machinist Thibault.

Judging by the registers of the French Embassy, they were still living in St. Petersburg in 1910, keeping the simple name "Tibo", and not accepting Russian citizenship.

Second cousin Kolya, Michel Thibault, went to Paris from Petersburg in 1913 and joined the French army (then in France was compulsory military service), he was 20 years old.

The day and month of his birth is only one day different from Kolya's birthday - July 4 (1893).

On the website of the Ministry of Defense of France, you can find a scanned document issued by a military court confirming the death of Michel Thibault "for France" in 1918, near Verdun.

He was 24 years old. Kolya was killed at 23.

In the register of the French embassy, Michel's profession is written as 'dessinateur', which can be translated as an artist, draftsman, draftsman.

About Kolya is known for various memories that he "skillfully drew crocks" - a conventional drawing of the route with the image of the forest, mountains, rivers.

I just made another discovery about the Thibault family, on the French genealogy website.

There was a document about another second cousin Uncle Kolya, Constantine Thibault, Michel's brother.

He is listed on the list of French prisoners of war in 1916-1917, died in a hospital in Germany in 1917.

So the two brothers, Kolya's relatives, having lived all their lives in Petersburg, perished in the First World War, fighting for France ...

MP: Yes, interesting coincidences ... as in the family, the events of the life of relatives repeat the events in half a century ...

And how did Kolya find himself in Kemerovo?

AE: His sister Lisa (in the family she was called Lusya) graduated from UPI, got married, received a referral to the Kemerovo Coke and Gas Plant in July 1941.

Lisa's husband, as well as Nikolai's older brother, Volodya, died at the front (Vladimir Thibeaux-Brignolle has a record that at the end of 1943, when his military unit was approaching, he was fatally wounded in the head and died on December 4, 1943 in a military hospital number 8225).

Vladimir Vladimirovich Thibeaux-Brignolle, the elder brother of Kolya Thibault, who died in the war in 1943, the archive of Kazantseva M.E.

Lisa invited her mother and Kolya, who stayed after her father's death in Osinniki, to Kemerovo.

Kolya in 1943 was only 8 years old. Liza's daughter Katya grew up in 1942, who was only 7 years younger than Kolya, her uncle.

Kemerovo, December 31, 1964. Meeting of the New 1965 At the table - Elizaveta Vladimirovna Thibeaux-Brignolle, elder sister of Kolya Thibault; Anastasia Prokhorovna Thibeaux-Brignolle, the mother of Kolya Thibault; Katya is the daughter of Elizaveta Vladimirovna, niece of Kolya Thibault. Archive Kazantseva M.E.

MP: And what about them now?

Where are they?

AE: Kolya's sister - Elizaveta Vladimirovna - died in 2001 in Kemerovo.

Unfortunately, her daughter, Kolya's niece, is no longer alive too.

MP: Tell me, please, are there any memories, how did Kolya treat his father in the camps as an "enemy of the people"?

SEK: Kolya was cautious enough and did not chat about anything.

He hid that his father was arrested as an enemy of the people.

In case of questions about Kolya's unusual surname, he invented a legend about the French communist.

MP: I met the legend of the son of a French communist on the Internet, but did not know that Kolya himself had invented it to avoid unnecessary questions about where his father was and what he was doing.

Well done!

AE: We have a record of a short story about teh family of Kolya's sister, Elizaveta Vladimirovna:

"It should be noted that, despite all the difficulties and hardships, Vladimir Iosifovich's family was always dominated by friendly relations between all members of the family, mutual support and exceptional diligence."

Work was the foundation of our well-being and relationships - living in Siberia, we, the children, learned to grow vegetables, take care of animals, store food for them, etc.

Our mother taught us all this with a kind smile and great patience.

While living a primitive peasant life, we read a lot and tried to get education, mother in We were happy to help us.

The life of my parents could be called HEROIC.

E. Thibeaux-Brignolle. November 20, 1988 "(from the archive of G.V. Gasselblat)

MP: Alexei Rakitin asked me to ask my relatives if Nikolai showed any disagreement with the policy of Stalin, Khrushchev or the CPSU in general.

Did he sing songs (couplets, ditties) satirical content, whether he told jokes of a similar theme?

SEK: Kolya could make critical remarks, ironically on the policy of Stalin, Khrushchev.

Before Khrushchev came to power, there was a very strict time.

Under Khrushchev, such rigor was no longer there.

In the campaigns I could sing songs and ditties of satirical content.

He came to us in Kamensk-Uralsky only once, in the beginning of 1956.

In our house he did not sing then.

The family of Vladimir Iosifovich in the south (Crimea?), October 1929. On the stone sit: Volodya, Lisa. In a white dress, Anastasia Prohorovna Thibeaux-Brignolle, Vladimir Iosifovich Thibeaux-Brignolle is in the sand. From the archives of M.E. Kazantseva

MP: And how did the life of the rest of Thibeaux-Brignolle - brothers and sisters of Kolya's father?

AE: I will quote facts from the memories of my grandmother published in the Urals magazine Vesi:

Anna Iosifovna and her husband were arrested in 1937 both in the same night.

He was soon shot as an "agent of foreign intelligence services" (the family did not know about it, then it was called "10 years without the right of correspondence").

She was arrested for "failure to report", spent 10 years in the camp.

There are memories that Kolya's father shared the views of another repressed relative expressed during the interrogation: he did not accept the revolution because of her cruelty and believed that Russia's future lies in its connection with Western countries.

Kolya's uncle - Sergey Iosifovich Thibeaux-Brignolle - was very religious, served as a sapper in the army of Kolchak.

He fell ill with typhus, was captured red, then drafted into the Red Army.

He died in 1931.

The other uncle - Dmitry Iosifovich - was talented, well-drawn, wrote poetry.

During the Civil War he was an officer in the White Army, he hated Soviet power.

Dmitry Iosifovich Thibeaux-Brignolle on the day of his arrest, October 1939, Sverdlovsk

MEK: Here he is 46 years old. This photo my mother accidentally saw in the journalist Svetlana Dobrynina, who wrote an article about Dmitry Iosifovich "The soul is free even before death" in 1994.

Dmitry Iosifovich was shot in 1941.

MP: It seems to me that Kolya's personality in the light of the destinies of his relatives is acquired by a whiteguard halo, which gives a peculiar romantic character to his image.

"White is a threat to blackness," wrote Marina Tsvetaeva.

This I like more than modern, how to say it softer, exotic versions, arising from the unusual French name Thibault Brignoles.

I do not mean the version in which Kolya and Semyon act as distributors of drugs in the group, but I'm talking about the version recently published by the Dyatlov Memorial Foundation - about Kolya as an adventurer hunting for the Golden Woman.

And precisely because he was a French citizen, according to this version, they kill the whole group.

AE: Mum has long found archival documents that our ancestors were forced to transfer to Russian citizenship in the 50s of the XIX century because of the Russian-Turkish war, when France was against Russia, that is, 100 years before Kolya's expedition!

Only one of the sons of the machinist Thibault quickly regained French citizenship, and his descendants retained French citizenship in the 20th century.

MP: Anna, please tell me, how did you personally perceive this news when you realized that you are a relative of the same Nikolai Thibeaux-Brignolle?

What feelings did you experience, and do you feel now?

AE: About this topic, I learned gradually, first - more than 10 years ago - from my mother that our relative was in a group of tourists who died in 1959, but knew about it without terrible details.

Then I read the books of A. Matveeva and L. Gushchina, I read the materials on the Internet.

I'm very sorry for all the guys, it's hard to think about what has not come true for them, about the misfortune of their families.

They would have known that many years later many people would analyze their participation in this campaign, read diaries, and think about them.

There is something unclosed in this story, maybe that's why it attracts many.

MP: Rather undisclosed or hidden ... And what is the family version of the tragedy that happened?

Your personal thoughts and comments about inconsistencies in the investigation?

Do you agree with the conclusions of the physical and technical expertise that the tourists themselves cut the tent?

I, for one, do not agree.

Purely for psychological reasons, the guys could not so casually and so carelessly cut in in essence destroy their house - a tent, which they carefully stored and repaired in all campaigns, at every free moment.

I recall analogies with extreme cases in other expeditions.

When there was a fire in the tent because of the stove, even in those cases the stove itself was almost thrown out with bare hands.

But nobody was going to cut the tent.

If you look at the photo of the tent, it's all torn to shreds.

Like someone crazy was trashing it.

And it is not likely that the cuts were made the ice ax of the searchers from Slobtsov group, although they take the blame on themselves.

This is in vain.

I personally think that the tent was cut by strangers.

Examination of the tent was made formally and superficially, as everything else in this unfortunate case. Expert G. Churkina years later admitted that the examination could have found out more information on the cuts, but this was not her task at hand.

From the words of the criminalist, we can speculate that the incisions were made at a different time, and the time could not have coincided with the official time of the tragedy, pinpointed by the investigation.

MEK: There was no definite version in the family.

I remember conversations about strong radioactivity, that tourists behaved as if blinded, that the clothes of some were on others.

That the authorities urged their parents to bury the tourists in Ivdel.

That the military showed great activity, as if covering something only known to them.

MP: It seems to me that the the person from the district committee who sent the relatives of Dyatlov group to get military pension, was very cunning.

Military - a concept that includes the Armed Forces of the USSR, as well as servicemen of the Internal Troops of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs.

And by simple words, the guards of Ivdellag.

But many people, when analyzing these words, think of rockets and fireballs, since the military are associated with these types of weapons.

MEK: I think that none of the tourists would cut the tent.

An enemy cut it from the inside, sitting in the tent, observing the slope.

And the tourists watched the tent from the cedar, making an "opening".

So they looked from afar to each other.

And what happened before - something monstrous, which none of them could foresee.

By the way, even in 1959 there was no talk about an avalanche.

It was said that they were running, holding hands, as if they couldn't see.

СЕК: What was the version then?

Test weapons.

Why?

Because the tourists were burned, poisoned. Judging by their actions - they were blinded.

They scattered, there were not all in one place.

There was a moment of insanity.

It can be from poisoning, and from cold.

Night in the woods, in the dark.

Slowly moving, very poorly thinking.

They took hold of branches, coudln't see two steps ahead.

Many involved in the search, (and maybe relatives of the tourists) signed non-disclosure.

MP: Did Kolya know Semyon Zolotaryov before this trek?

СЕК: We don't think so.

Semyon joined the group unexpectedly for everyone.

It can not be ruled out that it was incerted to monitor the tourists.

If Kolya suspected that Semyon Zolotaryov cooperated with the KGB, then I think is very probable that there would be some kinf of dislike between Kolya and Zolotaryov, because one suffered from the KGB, and the other was working with them.

Perhaps S. Zolotaryov was in the group to observe the tourists, so they don't escape abroad.

This trip is a good reason to go to the border and get away.

At that time, in tourist trips abroad, they always introduced a cheerful open person with this purpose in mind: to watch that they did not run away.

MP: Yes, there was such a directive to search parties in the party committee: to collect information that the unidentified part of the group (the last four bodies in the ravine) could not have been escaped abroad.

This information is confirmed by E. Zinoviev, V. M. Askinadzi, and Y. E. Yudin. But in my opinion Semyon Alexeevich (I think M.P. means Alexandrovich - ed. note) had another task in that expedition, much more complicated and responsible than watching the Komsomol members, so that they don't abscond.

Photo from the last trek: Kolya and Semyon Zolotaryov

MEK: About Kolya's hat in this photo: it must have been a warm hat, because when Zolotaryov put his beret on him, Kolya was clearly cold, his shoulders raised to his ears.

MP: Please tell me which version seems the most convincing to you?

AE: The most interesting for me are two works on this topic: the analysis of documents, testimony made by Gennady Ivanovich Kizilov, as well as the essay by Alexei Rakitin (very interesting is the analysis of photo films, biographies of the participants in the trek, analysis of contradictory facts).

The spy topic at first glance seems fantastic, but for that time it is likely.

To come to the conclusions made by G.I. Kizilov, you need to be free from stereotypes of thinking.

Usually they were looking for an answer within the framework of how everything was shown in the criminal case, he went beyond that.

With great interest I read the articles of the esteemed G.I. Kizilov on this topic.

I read your articles, Maya: an interview with V. Askinadzi, V. Androsov and other publications.

For several years I have been browsing through articles and forums on the Internet about this topic, I thought that everything that can be done, already found, discussed, studied, and you are well done, found "gaps" and successfully work!

I like to read your discussions with Gennady Ivanovich.

MP: Thank you, Anna!

Gennady Ivanovich Kizilov was not criticized only by the laziest, who did not read his account of the events.

But you are right, Kizilov blasted this long-lasting lie, questioning the materials of the copy of the Criminal case that was widely available on the Internet.

The topic that Alexei Rakitin reveals is certainly very interesting.

And most importantly, he has an evidence base.

And recently in the "Komsomolskaya Pravda" journalists N. Varsegov and Natalia Ko, who wrote a series of reports about the tragedy, mentioned the caught spy radio operator from Saranpaul.

The neighborhoods of Ivdellag are places of concentration of many former policemen and others, really enemies of the Soviet power, and not only foes, fictitious by Stalin's investigators, who stayed and remained in those places.

But let's leave all these spies and conspirators in peace, it's better to talk about ours, about women's - about love.

Did Kolya have a girlfriend?

He is such a charismatic youth that I think many girls were probably in love with him, and he probably did not bypass them either.

If I lived in that time and place, I would definitely fall in love with Kolya.

MEK: There was no mentioning in the family about Kolya having a girlfriend.

The best friend was not mentioned either.

Hikes are a special condition when the whole group is friendly, not breaking up into pairs.

MP: Yudin said that they still had their sympathies and attachments in the expeditions.

Probably Kolya liked Lyuda.

She generally singled out these guys - Kolya, Yura Krivonischenko, Rustik Slobodin, who graduated from the institute and were working already.

"Rustik and Kolya talked a little about everything, about work, etc.

In general, I like these guys: the big difference between them is Rustik, Ko, Yura and us who graduated from the institute.

Still their judgments are the most mature and smarter than ours.

Lord, I do not even talk about my own. "

Look, Lyuda here calls Kolya a somewhat intimate "Ko".

I generally get the impression that Lyuda is not aware of her own affection for Kolya that has began to appear in this expedition.

She wrote about him in a diary, and made fun of them in that satirical flyer, called professors and associate professors of love sciences, "love will accidentally come", everything could happen after the trek, but something else happened, irreparable and terrible, they were found in a ravine with terrible injuries, and they were together.

AE: Honestly, I don't adhere to this conclusion.

It was interesting for Lyuda to communicate with older hikers, among whom was Kolya.

I was convinced by the analysis of Rakitin's films, from which it can be concluded that Kolya did not fancy any of the girls in the group.

MP: In his memoirs on the hikers, E. Zinoviev recounts: "Kolya was very popular in student quarters and was sometimes given rare and forbidden books rare for the time."

He generously presented us, newly acquired and trusted friends, the opportunity for one or two nights to get acquainted with the next book finding.

So suddenly in our quarter room appeared the pre-revolutionary edition of Muller's book "Sexuality".

Thus in the UPI dormitory number 5 was closed a gap in the sexual education of students ..."

I tried to find information about this book they were reading.

And I discovered that the book under this name was of another author - Fogel.

By Y. Muller, the scientist and physiologist, who was unusually popular at the beginning of the last century, laying the foundations of physiology and histology, were the editions "The Sexual Life of Man" in 3 volumes by Muller, translated by I.G. Ashkinazi, St. Petersburg, 1909 and "Sexual morals and mancipation of women" scientific-popular essay, with an annex by A. A. Forel "Sexuality and medicine", Moscow, 1911.

I wonder which of these books were they reading, about the sexual liberation of women or about the sexual question of man ...

AE: Yes, by the way, Kolya was named professor of love science - probably because of these books.

MP: Undoubtedly!

Continuing the idea of the relationship between Lyuda and Kolya, we can not ignore the diaries.

Here is their dispute over sewing a tent in that famous diary - an obvious forgery.

I personally do not believe this record.

I'd rather fantasize about the love affection between Kolya and Lyuda than I would believe investigator Ivanov, who wrote that Lyuda's jacket was on Semyon Zolotaryov, and her green hat was on Kolya which means in general that they stripped the girl.

I admit, for example, I thought that Kolya did not like to keep diaries.

In one of the versions of the group's general diary I see: Kolya's entry: "I can not, although I tried" - on January 26.

And then in the diary there are no records on behalf of Kolya.

It's a bit strange to say that the group diary has versions...

This is nonsense.

There can not be several versions of the group's general diary.

There must be one single diary of the group from that very trek.

But the reality on Internet were published several versions of the group's diary.

There should be a way to clarify which one is the real one.

In the famous issue of "The Ural Pathfinder" magazine for January 2009, very different entries were published from the general diary of the group, which for a long time is well known to all, and a copy of which is available in the Criminal case.

I asked the Foundation, where did these records come from?

Who submitted them for publication?

What source did you use?

They pointed to V.G. Yakimenko.

"I must know Yakimenko, as the issuing editor of that number."

I wrote him a letter, but I did not get an answer.

The Foundation's answer shed some light om the situation: "Gushtin's book does not have the same diary as in the criminal case.

In the diary of the last expedition the text has two notes in brackets "from A.G.", probably Anatoliy Gushtin.

In the magazine and in his book (1999 and 2009 editions) texts of diaries coincide.

So the source appears to be Gushtin".

Where did Gushtin see this diary, one can only assume that in the Criminal case, but not the copy that is now handed out and replicated everywhere, but in the original.

AE: Having looked through the diaries, I began to compile a table, comparing the facts from different diaries by dates, then thought about the sources.

In Zina's scanned diary there is nothing about the dispute about sewing the tent.

As for the two options - who argued about sewing the tent - it's strange that different people argue in different versions, that is, both people could not have written both versions (he could not mix up Lyuda and Kolevatov), but used almost identical phrases - "took up needle - took a needle", "the weather smiles at us, " the sun is playing "...

And then, in a diary, (falsely) attributed to Zina, it was explained that on 30.01 they were on duty again Tibo and Kolevatov, for a slow gathering the day before.

It also says that Kolya took a needle and then: "we mended holes, there were so many of them, that there was enough work for everyone, except for two people on duty and Lyuda."

The guys are terribly outraged ." - it's a little strange that it says "with the exception of two on duty and Lyuda" - if it was already said that Kolya was on duty and also sewed up the tent! It is either a mistake made while typing the originals, or traces of falsifications, which is consistent with the opinion of Gennady Ivanovich Kizilov.

And I also noticed the comments about the fire - in one diary it was said that "it took up a long time for the people on duty to start a fire in the morning".

And in the general group diary - the entry for 30.01 it says that in the evening "as always, we quickly build a bonfire and put the tent on the spruce".

MP: Anna, that's just the point, that there are many inconsistencies with these diaries.

In the recently published notebooks of journalist Grigoriev, we can see which Zina's diary he copied into his notebook.

There is nothing about outrage against Lyuda.

It can be assumed that in the Criminal case there was another diary of one of the members of Dytalov group.

I can be mistaken, but my opinion is that the "wrong" diary was specially launched - where Lyuda argues with Kolya about who of them to sew up the tent.

They argued till the whole group stand against her.

She was offended and went into the tent. And she was not even given a piece of tangerine.

And this can not be purely psychological, from the female point of view.

Lyuda admired Kolya in his notebook, his mind, and probably wanted that they, too, older guys, also noticed and respected her.

And so she never goes to argue with the man whose mind she admired, about who should take up the needle, her or him.

Of course, the woman first will take the needle without any controversy and will take up sewing.

In the case of Lyuda, "Kolya took a needle".

He acted as a Gentleman, even in this diary.

And the rest of the guys are represented in this record not in their best - feast - they share the tangerine without leaving a piece for Lyuda.

Really guys could do that to a girl?

In our group in kontakte.ru "I. Dyatlov's group Pass", we even conducted a small survey on the topic, who from the group shared his piece of tangerine with Lyuda?

An equal number of votes came for "Nobody" and "Semyon Zolotaryov". "Kolya" follows right after.

An opinion was expressed that "somebody might not have eaten, but brought his own share of Dubinina, secretly, Zolotaryov, for example, or Thibeaux-Brignolle, or Kolevatov", the birthday boy ...

"The Ural Pathfinder" magazine published exactly the version of Kolya's dispute with Sasha Kolevatov, it is said that on January 30 they were on duty, which means that the people on duty participated in the sewing of the tent.

Therefore, it seems to me that the dispute between Kolya and Sasha Kolevatov is more plausible than a dispute between Lyuda and Kolya.

And then, the dispute is not a dispute, rather comic wrangling Kolya, they say, you are a rookie, student, go sew and do not argue with the senior in rank.

Kolya argues, but, apparently, he can't get ahead of Kolevatov.

So Kolya simply takes a needle and sits down sewing.

It is indicative even for both diaries that the group was not so cloudless and friendly, as the former students participating in the search are trying to convince us.

I want to note that Kolya was very clean and neat.

Even in the general diary it is indicated that after a long traverse he first changed into dry and clean clothes.

And only then he agreed to sew up the tent.

I was personally amazed that he had 10 pairs of clean socks on this trek and many handkerchiefs, even more than the girls ...

Generally, the diaries of Dyatlov group are a bottomless topic for discussion.

AE: I, too, when I read the fragment with a tangerine, thought that it was cruel to deprive Lyuda of a piece, of course, if you believe the diary, but was it really so?

According to Y. Yudin's memoirs, Kolya was an attentive fellow: "This is such a wonderful comrade and friend, he has such a fate, from a repressed family, but he was so attentive in expeditions."

When I went on a weekend trip for the first time, I haven't even had a backpack in my life, he was older than me, he took care of the people, he will fix it, he will straighten it, everything else, he will talk to you, well, he was an amazing friend".

MP: You showed me pictures of Kolya student years, sent to your family by Galina Kryachko.

I thought, maybe she was friends with Kolya, if she had so many photos of him?

MEK: I met with Galina Ivanovna Kryachko at a meeting of the Urals Genealogical Society.

In 2003, Gasselblat inspired me to make a report on my archival searches for the conference in Sverdlovsk.

After the report, they approached me with questions.

Galina Ivanovna came up too.

She said that in 1959 she was a young girl, worked as a laboratory assistant in UPI and remembers what horror it was when the tourists died.

She proposed to take me to the cemetery, to the graves of the tourists.

Then she sent me books in Moscow by A. Matveeva "Dyatlov Pass" and another by A. Gushtin "The price of the state - 9 lives".

She also sent several pictures of Kolya.

They were given to her by Kolya's friends.

I gave them to the photo center, where they made copies, retouched.

MP: I thought that Galina Hamova, whom was mentioned in the Criminal case as the person identifying the hikers belongings, could be the same Galina Kryachko.

But then I noticed that their middle names are different.

It's a pity that this lead was lost.

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TIBO BROKEN WINGS - part 2

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Kolya Thibault at the sign dividing Europe and Asia (no date). Archive Kazantseva M.E. (photo received from Galina Ivanovna Kryachko, Yekaterinburg)

Tourists on a trek. Summer of 1958, Altay. Kolya Thibault - 1st on the left. Archive Kazantseva M. E. (Photo received from Galina Ivanovna Kryachko, Yekaterinburg)

Village of Tyomnoe on Serebryanoy river. An uninhabited barrack. 16-17 February 1958 Kolya Thibault - 1st on the right. Archive Kazantseva M.E. (photo received from Galina Ivanovna Kryachko, Yekaterinburg)

MP: What are your personal thoughts when you look at these hiking photos, where the guys are cheerful and fooling around?

Did they have a drink?

Do you think if they had alcohol with someone else?

AE: Regarding the alcohol ...

I would trust the opinion of people who went to winter hikes at that time, it was customary to take alcohol, or not.

As for the photo, it seems to me that this is just a posing to make the pictures more interesting and unusual, a reflection of a cheerful nature and perhaps some inclination towards showing off in Nikolai's case (as noted in the essay by A. Rakitin).

It reminds me of the photos that modern people put on social networks.

Fooling around in one of the hikes

MP: Was there anyone from your family at the Kolya's funeral?

Are there any photos from the funeral?

What memories of the funeral are preserved in the family?

MEK: My grandmother Anna Iosifovna, her daughter Olga - my mother, with her husband and two children - we all lived not in Sverdlovsk, but in Kamensk-Uralsky, this is a town 150 km from Sverdlovsk.

I can not say if there was someone from our family at the funeral.

We do not have a photo from the funeral.

And I do not have memories of the funeral.

I was then 7 years old, and I was guarded from such terrible impressions.

We have a photo of Elizaveta Iosifovna at Kolya's grave.

Elizaveta Iosifovna Muzafarova (Thibeaux-Brignolle), Kolya's native aunt , at Kolya's tombstone. Sverdlovsk, the early 60s of the twentieth century. Archive M.E. Kazantseva

MP: Very interesting photo.

It can be seen that the monument was different, the photo on the obelisk is different.

And the grave itself in relation to the landmark - the roof of the house on that side of the street - is to the right of the house.

Gennady Ivanovich Kizilov told a very sad story about the transfer of grave plates of Dyatlov group from their present place deep into the cemetery and a little to the side.

He once had a long conversation with V.A. Elovski, who was the custodian of the cemetery before the reconstruction, and who told G.I. Kizilov this story.

They specified the distance between the previous series of pyramids, the present series of tombstones, and agreed on a figure of "about three meters", i.е. so tombstones were moved, nobody moved the graves themselves, they remained in place.

AE: I read Gennady Ivanovich opinion on this topic.

I will be very happy if this photo is useful to him.

MP: This photo was very useful.

Even unique.

Probably the only remaining evidence that the current position of the gravestone does not coincide with the position of the grave in 1959.

This can be seen well from the preserved house i.e. by its roof, which is visible from behind the fence and is an indisputable landmark.

More recently, residents of Yekaterinburg, Darya Babayeva and Sergey Stol have volunteered to help resolve this issue.

They went to the Mikhailovskoe cemetery and made this photo of the Kolya gravestone from the very point from which the photo of Elizaveta Iosifovna was made in 1965.

The present gravestone. Photo by S. Shtol and D. Babaeva

Now everyone can compare these photos and draw their own conclusion, whether there were changes in the cemetery, and if the gravestones were laid in the same place as in the year of the burial of Dyatlov group.

And the benchmark is well served by the roof of the neighboring house, as it is located in both photos in relation to the tombstone.

Another observation was made at the cemetery: the location of the alleged Dyatlov group graves was cemented into one huge common slab, creating the impression of of an emergency blocks like the once they poured in Chernobyl.

Darya said something about this concrete monument left her with the unpleasant feeling, “since when they started spreading concrete slabs over graves, apparently, something there is unclean”.

MP: Were any of kolya's belongings returned to relatives?

There is an entry in the second volume of the Criminal Case, which E.V. Buyanov points out:

"40. Draft:" We received .... Thibault pen knife ... Thibault 008 ...

42. Record:
1. In Thibault checked shirt 8 rubles.
2. Camera Zorkiy with a tripod and broken lens? 488797. 34 frames shot.
16. Pockets. In Thibault windbreaker and trousers pockets a flashlight, a penknife and a Finnish knife, a compass 1 pc.
72. Receipt dated 26.11.59 from Elizaveta Iosifovna Muzafarova, the relative of the deceased Thibeaux-Brignolle, for receiving from Ivanov wrist watches "Pobeda" and photographs (signed by Muzafarova and Ivanov)"

I am personally not convinced that the camera mentioned in this receipt belongs to Kolya or is somebody else's.

In the photos from the expedition we see Kolya taking a picture with a camera, but if it is FED, Zorkiy or maybe Pioneer, the members of the Hibina did not come to an uniform conclusion.

MEK: I remember talking about the fact that nothing was returned from things, not even a camera.

At that time, the camera was of a great value.

But they did not return it. people whisper that all things are infected with a large dose of radiation, so you can not return them to the relatives.

About the wrist watches nothing was said, but the camera were in the center of rumors.

The only camera that remained in the family was "Mir", which made rather gray, fuzzy pictures.

The family asked to be returned Kolya's good camera naming its brand and identifying it among others, but they refused to return it.

It's so obvious: there is a receipt from Elizaveta Iosifovna that she has received Kolya's watches.

As for the camera, there is no such receipt.

If he had forgotten to take the camera with him on the trip, it had to be where Kolya lived.

But there was no camera!

MP: So Kolya had a camera in that expedition?

What brand?

MEK: I read many times in the memories of Kolya's friends that he was atking very good pictures.

Kolya's camera was of good quality.

Most likely, it was bought by Vladimir Iosifovich before his arrest.

It could be Sharp, FED.

It is possible that this was a German brand, which Vladimir Iosifovich brought from Germany, where he once studied.

The investigator showed it to aunt Lyusya (that's how Kolya's sister Elizaveta Vladimirovna was called in the family): "Is this yours?"

"Yes."

After that, the investigator took it to the safe and aunt Lyusya never saw it again.

MP: But why?!?

MEK: The explanation as of why the camera was not returned was that it irradiated with an increased dose of radiation, and it can not be released as a safety precaution.

MP: What are these photographs that the investigator gave to Elizaveta Iosifovna Muzafarova?

MEK: These photos from their last expedition, received by relatives, neither I nor Sergey know anything about.

Perhaps only the elder sister of Kolya, aunt Lyusya, took the pictures with her to Kemerovo ...

There is nothing in Elizaveta Iosifovna or else my grandmother Anna Iosifovna would have seen the pictures, and I as well.

I have seen photos of the the trek only on the Internet.

We had only earlier photographs, and then very few.

MP: This is all very strange, what kind of photos were there?

Maybe there were photos of Kolya, which the investigator asked for the gravestone and then returned them.

MEK: I'm sure that photos of the last trek were not returned to relatives.

In 1959, there was no talk about any photographs in the conversations between Anna Iosifovna and Elizaveta Iosifovna.

We can say that they were already elderly and did not take interest in photographs.

But Dina (the youngest daughter of E.I.) was very active, curious and liked photography.

And she very much involved in the discussion of Kolya's death.

But - never and nothing in their photo albums did not appear with the note: "photos issued by the investigator" or "photos from the last trek".

In 1968, during the winter holidays, I was in Kemerovo visiting aunt Lyusya and Anastasia Prohorovna (Kolya's mom), and they did not talk about any photos of this trek and didn't show me anything like that.

I stayed with them probably for a week.

MP: Probably these were pictures of Kolya from a personal archive of relatives, for a tombstone.

Therefore, when they were returned to relatives, no one in the family said anything because they were their own photos.

Are there any pictures of Kolya in the family circle?

AE: Unfortunately there are not photos of Kolya in the family circle.

There are a couple of photos I have not seen on the Internet, I put them on the Kolya's page, which I created on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NikolayThibeauxBrignolles

MP: Thank you, Anna, I will definitely subscribe to this page.

AE: I noticed that when answering your questions, mom and Sergey E. mentioned two family names that are relevant to our family, which are also present in the Criminal case.

For example, when answering a question about who of friends or acquaintances from Sverdlovsk could remember something about Kolya and the events of that time, Sergey Evgenyevich recalled his teacher from the UPI on electrical engineering named ...

Krivonischenko.

In the early seventies, this teacher was 35-40 years old.

It is possible that he was a relative of Yuri Krivonischenko.

And the second name is Rempel: Kolya's cousin Evgeniya, daughter of Dmitry Iosifovich, married Helmut Rempel.

Now they live in Germany.

MP: Indeed, interesting coincidences, as soon as life does not reduce people!

One person told me that Y. Krivonischenko's nephew lives in Yekaterinburg, and local Dyatlov case followers, if they really wanted, could find him.

His name is Krivonischenko Alexey Igorevich, he is now somewhere 46-47 years.

But Yuri's brother, the one who received the belongings, was called Igor, this is recorded in the case.

From a letter sent to me by a girl who managed to talk with him on the Internet: "He confirmed that he was Yuri's nephew, and even somewhat (really very reluctantly and briefly) answered my questions, and then canceled his account, along with his page.

They have something in common with Yuri, but of course this is my personal impression.

When asked why Yuri was buried separately and not with the rest, were his parents holding Dyatlov responsible for the death of his son, he replied that it was the will of the parents and nothing more.

On questions about the personality of Yuri, about that expedition, about his parents, he said nothing more, and then disappeared.

Now I understand that he really did not say anything, just a couple of monosyllabic phrases like "yes", "no," "nonsense," unfortunately.

I didn't save his photo, like the correspondence itself, so I have nothing ... "

MP: I was personally surprised by the fact that Kolya's aunt Elizaveta Iosifovna identified the saw as belonging to Kolya.

I don't think she could have seen it, even know about it, since Kolya lived in a dormitory.

According to the materials in the Criminal case, after graduating Kolya was sent to work in Sverdovsk, as the master of a site in the construction and installation department.

He had a roommate in the dormitory - Belyasov, who identified Kolya's belongings, alternately with Y.E. Yudin and Elizaveta Iosifovna.

Could Elizaveta Iosifovna identify the saw under duress, after Belyasov identified it? What do you think?

AE: Mom and Sergey Evgenievich found a logical explanation of how Kolya's aunt could identify the saw ...

MEK: We do not think that Elizaveta Iosifovna was pressured.

Kolya worked in Sverdlovsk, about this there was an entry in the family documents:
"Having finished the diploma project, he was left in Sverdlovsk, worked as a master in the SMU" - his sister Elizaveta wrote in 1988.

In Uralmash, where Elizaveta Iosifovna lived, there were old houses, two-story, rather cold.

And there was a stove in the wall in the room and in the kitchen, at the height of a man.

It was heated with firewood.

Sergey Evgen'evich recalls that in 1960 Elizaveta Iosifovna already had batteries.

Sawing wood with a hacksaw is very inconvenient.

My aunt had a wood-burning barn, there were firewood and probably there was a two-handed saw.

And then, when they put the batteries, this saw was no longer necessary to her, and Elizaveta Iosifovna could easily give it to Kolya for hikes.

And then she could recognize it right away, because it was her saw.

MP: Kolya's roommate Belyasov said that Kolya took this saw from the tool shop at work.

This is a discrepancy.

AE: It seems to me that such a simple explanation about the saw is well correlated with the idea of falsifying the data in the protocol.

Otherwise, it's difficult to explain why the aunt so easily recognized Kolya's saw, which was from his place of work.

The second assumption - if you believe that the saw was actually taken from the place of work - then Kolya brought this good saw and helped his aunt to cut the wood in her household before the heating appeared.

MP: This option is also possible.

From the copies of the records of the identification of things by Elizaveta Iosifovna, one can see that in the records of the identification of this mysterious saw there is not a single signature, no investigator, no witnesses, no Elizaveta Iosifovna herself.

Although there was room for signatures, as if the writer stretched the last sentence, trying to fill the remaining free space of the sheet.

And on the next page on the numbering sheet there is already a receipt of Yudin about the things he has received.

Were any clothes returned to the relatives?

Did they complain that some things were not returned?

Perhaps, some things were returned in secret, without a protocol?

After all, a new hare vest disappeared, a quilted jacket disappeared ...

MEK: Sergey and I, we are not aware of Kolya's belongings from the trek.

The hare vest, I think, someone could take it.

Not relatives.

Well, of course, there are speculations.

Aunt Lyusya did not particularly bother, I think, about the return of Kolya's things.

There were no more men in the family.

You can look at the photos of his clothes and check with the list.

MP: I do not like digging in other people's things, but this is a special case.

It is necessary to find out everything that is in my capabilities.

We will be pushed to the wall, for lack of evidence, the lack of scans of the protocols of identification of things and the return of things, therefore, we will draw our own conclusion, on the basis of available documents.

I also consulted the search parties about the possible "marauding" in the search.

Everyone denies such things.

True, one person said that they could have taken cameras, because they were valuable.

AE: Maya, and what is the fundamental value and reliability of these protocols of identification of belongings?

Isn't the prevaling opinion that the investigation was led in a careless and superficial manner?

Do you think it makes sense to compare things with those that we see in the photos of the hikers?

MP: Anna, everything makes sense.

We have to keep reminding how incomplete and full of discrepancies the case is!

Many do not believe this and consider this criminal case almost the truth from the higher level.

And there are so many frauds and inaccuracies.

For example, did Kolya wear glasses?

MEK: Judging by the photos and our meeting in Kamensk, Kolya did not wear glasses.

MP: I looked at Kolya's medical chart, which was filled in when I entered the institute.

Here is an extract from it, the conclusion of the optometrist:

I consulted with ophthalmologists, Spanish and Russian, what these records mean.

The opinions of specialists coincided: this man had myopia.

With glasses his vision would be 70 percent, and without glasses - 40 percent.

MEK: In the conclusion of a doctor, 0.7 - this, in my opinion, means that out of 100% of the eyesight, a person has 70%.

And I do not understand the other figures.

It is clear only that both eyes were the same, which today is a great achievement.

When Kolya came to us, he was without glasses. In all the photographs he has no glasses.

In hiking, he went extreme and always returned.

These are facts.

They are most important.

If there was poor vision, he could not go camping, photographing.

Just in the first hike I would have been severely injured and never walked again.

MP: No one from his Polytech's comrades have seen Kolya wearing glasses.

Specifically, I learned this from Yakimenko and Zinoviev.

Yudin also said that he does not remember anyone in this hike wearing glasses.

These glasses he considers to be belonging to Lyuda, and as an argument leads the fact that they were found in her personal belongings, in the pocket of her backpack along with a toothbrush, soap dish with soap, "and here it was impossible to make a mistake".

Why Lyuda's relatives did not identify her glasses, Yuri Efimovich believes that this is "due to their psychological state".

But the very position of the glasses in the pocket of the backpack, which was deposited on the bottom of the tent for insulation, is already in doubt - they could easily break.

And that happened - the glasses were broken.

And recently I received a letter from Doroshenko's sister, Irina Nikolaevna, and she confirmed that Yuri was wearing glasses, with big diopters, and in hiking trips too, which you can make sure by looking at his hiking photos.

But nobody recognized these glasses as belonging to Yuri.

We don't know whether they were shown ...

So, in my opinion, the identification of things as belonging to Kolya was hasty and, maybe, even fictitious.

And Elizaveta Iosifovna herself probably did not even hear about her identification of saw and glasses.

Until I see the scans of the records of the identification of Kolya's things, with the signatures of Elizaveta Iosifovna, and until I compare this signature with her real signature, one can assume that in the identification of things the investigation resorted to falsification.

In the meantime, we have to be satisfied with what is in the copy of the Criminal case - my aunt identified the saw and glasses as belonging to Kolya.

And there is not a single signature on the protocols for identifying these things.

It says in the Criminal case that there is a receipt from Elizaveta Iosifovna receiving watches "Pobeda" and some photographs.

But I personally have not seen the scans of this receipt yet.

The Foundation refused to show it to me.

AE: Unfortunately, there is no chance to find these glasses - there is nobody from his sisters and his aunt's family alive.

MP: Whether they were in the family, whether they were returned at all, that's the question.

Anna, of course, everyone will recognize the things of his relative and even a friend.

After all, if Kolya lived in Sverdlovsk, then he came to visit his aunt.

There were no that many things at that time.

Doroshenko's sister recalls that in general, all lived poorly, one or two sweaters, pants generally probably one pair.

Any person who had been in contact with Kolya for a long time could identify these items.

I mean, we did not have a lot of things in the "golden 70s", and they lasted for a long time until they didn't fit anymore.

And everyone saw and knew who was wearing what.

Was there a TV in Kolya's family?

MEK: Televisions sets were very rare in the Urals.

Usually on New Year's eve, for example, many people gathered in front of the TV.

We went to the friends of our family Browns and watched TV together.

They had, but we didn't.

My mother was afraid that we would not do our homework, so we didn't buy TV for a long time.

More specifically, the Browns got their TV in 1958.

And our family - in 1966.

Elizaveta Iosifovna had a TV, but with a small screen.

A lens was purchased separately.

The lens was installed in front of the TV and enlarged the screen.

Those who sat on the side could no longer watch through the lens.

MP: Are there any memories in the family about some events from his childhood, Kolya's youth and his time as a young specialist?

MEK: As my mother (Kolya's cousin) told me, for a while Kolya lived with his aunt Elizaveta Iosifovna in Sverdlovsk.

I think in the first year, at the very beginning.

But Elizaveta Iosifovna was quite strict, with a very firm upbringing, taught.

And he ran away from her somewhere.

She was worried, looking for him.

He then settled himself in a dormitory.

Probably his relation with his mother was very affectionate, and he was not used to nagging.

Then, I remember how he once came to Kamensk-Uralsky.

He was very nice, talked and joked with me and my brother Sergey, gave us a great new book "1001 Nights", children's edition.

And I remember that he was in "velveteen".

It was then a very fashionable corduroy jacket, on the chest were two pockets with sewn zippers.

Such jackets were not bought, but sewed themselves in the family, for example, a young man asks: Mom, sew me one!

There were no such velveteen in Kamensk.

It was sewn by his mother, or sister Lisa.

Kolya was cheerful, sociable. he was easy going.

He was very inventive, loved pranks and jokes.

If they were photographed, they would necessarily depict something, play some sketch.

MP: Did Kolya have any special passion for something, something like a hobby?

MEK: The most important hobby was hiking.

Because he liked to go hiking, he was both determined and fearless.

He just needed to go to the wild, harsh land from time to time and put himself to the test.

In his childhood he liked to read books very much.

When he lived in Osinnik, where he was born, his mother taught her children to grow vegetables and take care of animals.

He knew how to do all this.

About other interests I only know from Matveeva's book and from the Internet: he loved ti take pictures and he was a good at it, he drew maps very well, and liked reading the samizdat literature.

MP: Tell me, please, is it true that Kolya's mother asked him not to go on this trip?

MEK: Yes, Kolya's mother begged him not to go on this trip.

Kolya said: "For the last time, Mom!"

Then she let him go.

My grandmother Anna Iosifovna remembers that Kolya was quite absentminded and had a tendency to get into all sorts of trouble.

One day he wanted to cross the road at a crossroads and stopped, waiting for the truck with a trailer, on which lay long logs, to pass.

The truck passed before Kolya and turned right.

And Kolya went to cross the road and flew right into the logs.

I also remember how they said that kolya's woolen socks were on one of the girls.

They believed that he gave them to her.

He acted like a knight i.e. Elizaveta Iosifovna and Anna Iosifovna saw the situation at that time quite probable and leaving the possibility of chivalry.

Sergey E. recalls that in the dormitory Kolya had problems in the room.

He came to visit his aunt and complained about the guys.

While he was sleeping, someone stuck cotton wool between his toes and set him on fire.

It was a stupid joke, but Kolya was not ready to jump up and stuff someone's face.

MP: Bastards!

I was interested in the former UPI students, what kind of behavior they had in the dorm room.

Askinadzi said that, yes, "there were no rules in the dormitory, if they saw someone as a weakling or a scoundrel, they make him suffer".

Most of all, it was for those who could not defend themselves, always and everywhere - even in the animal kingdom, where all relationships are based on instinct, no one touched me, and even vice versa - I was, in a sense, one of the leaders.

I did not know Thibault, so I can not say anything, but I do not want to suggest anything bad".

Zinoviev said that everything was fine and beautiful.

Sharavin said that he did not remember tormenting anybody in their dorm, although they joked about pranks.

Kolya on a trek. Kolya's great grandfather was an architect, it was not by chance that Kolya was drawing maps well.

MP: Are there any diaries or notebooks belonging to Kolya left in the family, any letters?

MEK: No.

MP: A. Rakitin asks if anything is known about whether Nikolai was left-handed or right-handed?

If he was left-handed, did they retrain him to use his right hand instead?

MEK: We do not know if Kolya was left-handed or right-handed.

AE: Judging by some photographs, Kolya wore a watch on his left hand, apparently he was right handed.

MP: Did Kolya take part in the trip of the students to the Kourovka camp site to meet the New 1959 with Dyatlov and Kolevatov?

This question is also from A. Rakitin.

MEK: We don't know.

MP: Y. Kuntsevich once in a conversation at the forum said that Nikolai Thibault was a Protestant, which I was very surprised.

Were the Thibeaux-Brignolles Protestants, not Catholics?

And in general, what was the position of the family on the question of faith, although I foresee the answer that Kolya was an atheist and a Komsomol member, like all young people at that time ...

But still, was Kolya baptized, if so, in what faith?

So many questions have been raised by a single replica of Y. Kuntsevich.

AE: Maya, this is a good question, I read that Kolya was a Protestant somewhere on the Internet.

But this is not true!

MEK: Kolya's great grandfather, Iosif Frantsevich, grew up in a Catholic family, but he married a Lutheran, his children were baptized as Lutherans.

Kolya's grandfather, Iosif Iosifovich, married an Orthodox, and all his children, including Kolya's father, Vladimir Iosifovich, were baptized in Orthodox churches (there are copies of records from the metric books).

Kolya's elder sister Elizaveta was baptized in the Orthodox church in 1916.

Data on whether Kolya and his brother were baptized by Volodya, we do not.

Baptizing children in the 1930s was quite dangerous for parents, in addition, in Osinniki, a mining village, at that time, apparently, there was not even an Orthodox church. In any case, Kolya could not be neither a Protestant nor a Catholic.

MP: It was dangerous, yes.

But that's interesting ...

For example, I learned that even in the families of Ivdel party workers, despite the disapproval of the heads of families, they were baking cakes and celebrating Easter, and grandmothers baptized their grandchildren, despite the bans of their parents.

And one of the party secretaries of the Ivdel city committee of the CPSU wore an icon in the tunic throughout the war, to which his mother blessed him, escorting him to the front.

Was it accepted in Kolya's family to celebrate Easter, bake a cake, celebrate birthdays?

MEK: They did not celebrate Easter, they did not color eggs, they did not bake cakes.

But birthdays were necessarily celebrated, given gifts, congratulated.

MP: How does the family look at setting up a memorial cross in the forest in the place where the bodies of the children were found?

MEK: The general opinion of the family - we think that it is necessary to put a cross.

Let there be at least an approximate place of death of people marked as it was customary in our country for centuries.

In this case is not even about a religious symbol only, but rather, a broader cultural tradition.

MP: Speaking of Nikolai, how would you introduce him?

AE: In the articles about the expedition and Dyatlov group Kolya is often called the son of a Frenchman or a Frenchman (for example, in a recent publication of the Komsomolskaya Pravda).

Indeed, in the inheritance from the French ancestors, Kolya received an unusual surname.

The origin of Kolya, the history of the genus Thibault often raises questions.

But the ancestors of Kolya remained forever in Russia, were at the service of the Russian state.

Kolya's mom - Anastasia Prohorovna - is a simple Russian woman, the daughter of a skilled worker.

So Kolya is - first of all - a Russian.

In difficult times, after his father's early death, he managed to get a high education, to become an engineer.

I would say that Kolya is a Russian Engineer - great grandson of a French architect.

MP: Dear Anna and Marina Evgenyevna, many thanks to you, and also to Sergey Evgenyevich, for share what you know about Kolya.

I was very interested to learn more about him, and to be honest, it was nice to talk with you on many lyrical topics.

Thanks for the new unique photos from the family history!

I think that now they will no longer speak of Nicolai Thibault as a French subject and the son of a French communist.

Yes, and the date of birth Kolya, perhaps, will be corrected in the records.

Yuri Yudin, on the question of whether he dreams of his deceased friends, answered that he is still dreaming of them, and then after these dreams he walks happy all day.

They are all alive there. "...

There is no illness, neither sorrow nor sighing, but life is endless."

I hope this publication will help readers to better know Nikolai Thibeaux-Brignolle.

Let this image of Kolya Thibault remain in our memory - a cheerful, bright, handsome young man smiling at us from the black and white photographs ...

M. P.
July - November 21.
(с) 2012 Kolya on a trek.

Kolya's great grandfather was an architect, it was not by chance that Kolya was drawing maps well.

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YURI KUNTSEVICH died at the age of 74 in Yekaterinburg on the morning of August 11, 2021.

 

 

 

 

For 20 years he headed the Dyatlov Group Memory Fund.

 

He was hospitalized after an expedition to the Dyatlov Pass that started on July 31, 2021.

A group of ten people gathered, including British journalist Graham Phillips.

Yuri Kuntsevich was forced to turn back after only 6 km on the first day of the trek because he felt an old knee injury.

He was escorted back to the base camp on Auspiya river by a member of the group who then caught up with the rest.

From the campsite on the Auspiya river, Yuri Kuntsevich joined the next group going back to Ivdel.

During the expedition, Yuri Kuntsevich complained that his knee hurt.

Upon arrival, he was admitted to a hospital due to overall weakness.

In the hospital, it turned out that his lung capacity was reduced to 40%.

On Tuesday, Yuri Kuntsevich's relatives reported that he was on the mend.

It was a shock to everyone that he passed away the next morning.

According to the preliminary version, Yuri Kuntsevich died due to the coronavirus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yuri Kuntsevich leaving Yekaterinburg on July 31, 2021 on his last trip to Dyatlov Pass.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Most people on the Russian forum (https://taina.li/forum/index.php?topic=16613.0) don't like this strange sculpture.

 

The prevailing opinion is that the author of the sculpture made a monument to himself, and not to the Dyatlov group since this pretentious structure does not reflect at all and is not associated either with the tragedy of the Dyatlov group or with the memory of the hikers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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After the passing of Yuri Kuntsevich the Memory of Dyatlov group foundation is in need of a new home.

 

The museum may be moving in the Yeltsin Center.

 

https://ekb.sm.news/muzej-gruppy-dyatlova-mogut-razmestit-v-elcin-centre-71358-u3t5/?fbclid=IwAR1MBP4jp6b7SzPlkoS_DVrnuvbW7LL-teabRpkSY5GHAQ7PtNn-tIa_coI

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Video by Алексей Самбиндалов

 

https://www.facebook.com/dyatlovpass9/videos/928666681110564

 

This is what the ridge looks like not far from Otorten at this time of the year.

Would you pitch a tent in these conditions?

Also the tent allegedly withstood the winds for a month propped only on ski poles.

I don't think so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This photo is from a film that was found in the Dyatlov group tent.

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Don't have a photo from Jan 23 1959 to show you, but I have from the same date 60 years later from my own expedition to the pass.

 

I will compensate by sharing a fact that may interest you (it should).

 

The number of the train cited in the diaries is wrong.

 

There is no train №43, see the timetable from the winter 1958-1959.

 

The case is riddled with typos (or are they) like this one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Before this photo plasters commemorative posts for the anniversary this year please read to the end what it's author, Evgeniy Buyanov, says about it.

 

"We visited URFU (UPI) ... and dormitory №10 on Lenin St. 66, in which I thought was room 531 where the Dyatlov group left off according to an entry in Zina's diary.

We found room 531 in the building.

Strangely enough the doors were preserved the same painted with oil paint.

Of course, the entire interior of the room has changed to a modern, and very "cheerful" one.

We were told that the girls that were now occupying the room were probably on vacation.

With some trepidation we touched this door which we thought was the same that the members of the Dyatlov group shut behind their backs never to return.

We didn't realize we are standing at the wrong door.

In November, as a result of correspondence with Irina Rashevskaya, Kuntsevich and Anishchenko, I found out that room 531 was not in dormitory №10, but №8 on Komsomolskaya 70/10.

It was Yuri Yudin's room that he shared with another student.

Zina Kolmogorova lived in dormitory №10.

Vladimir Askinadzi told us that, as far as he remembers, Zina lived in room №535.

The 4th and 5th floors here belonged to the UPI Radio Faculty (where Kolmogorova, Dyatlov and Doroshenko studied).

It is this building that the funeral procession started and Zina's coffin definitely stood here.

The confusion with the rooms is an example how important is to check the facts and to be careful and accurate in historical investigation.

I think that maybe the “historical door” should have a commemorative plaque, but I can not make this decision by myself."

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Building №8 reminded me very much of the dormitory buildings of our "Polytech" on Lesnoy Prospekt in St. Petersburg: these buildings were probably built in the 30s according to one standard project.

 

Similar houses and separate "corners" are available in different cities.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Dyatlov group had only 9 tickets for the first leg of the journey, and Lyuda had to hide under the seats when the conductor came to check the tickets.

 

I guess this is because it was her responsibility as treasurer to buy the tickets.

 

Why did she buy only 9 tickets, was it to save money or maybe they didn't expect Zolotaryov to show up?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Krivonischenko and Thibeaux-Brignolle notes January 23, 1959 sent together with Zina's letter to Lidiya Grigoryeva

 

https://dyatlovpass.com/zinaida-kolmogorova#letter5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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January 24, 1959, the Dyatlov group arrived in Serov at 7:39 am where they had 11 hour layover.

 

They visit school №41 where Zina talks to schoolchildren of 1st and 2nd grade about the perks of tourism.

 

The school is 200 meters (656 ft) from the train station.

 

The hikers leave for Ivdel at 6:47 pm by train №81, en route from Nadezhdinsk to Polunochnoe, where they arrived around midnight.

 

By that time, they had already had to face the authorities twice.

 

The first encounter took place at the train station in Serov, where Krivonischenko decided to earn money for candy by singing, and then had to be rescued from the militia station.

 

Then on the train, a half-drunk man tried to accuse the hikers of stealing his bottle of vodka.

 

 

See all diary entries and photos from January 24, 1959 → https://dyatlovpass.com/diaries#24jan

 

 

 

 

They visit school №41 where Zina talks to schoolchildren of 1st and 2nd grade about the perks of tourism.

 

The school is 200 meters (656 ft) from the train station.

 

 

City of Serov - Palace of Culture of Metallurgist

 

Monument of Serov, Aleksander Kolevatov

 

Semyon Zolotaryov with a bag of rusks

 

Igor Dyatlov and Nikolay Thibeaux-Brignolle (with the hat). Kneeled behind the table is Rustem Slobodin.

 

Serov, 41st school, the group is preparing for the trek.

 

Zina Kolmogorova is holding a piece of felt.

 

 

Serov, 41-th school, Zina is cutting sheepskin insoles with felt scissors.

 

You can see the letter she wrote on Jan 24 1959 in city of Serov and sent on Jan 26 from Vizhay

 

 

Hello, my dear mom, dad, Tom, Galya and Lusya!

 

Greetings to you from Zina.

 

Well, I'm away from you again, now we are in Serov.

 

We have a transfer here and I am writing to you.

 

Well, how is life?

 

Anything new?

 

We are going camping, a group of 10 people.

 

The group is good.

 

At the plant, everything is ok, they let me go.

 

I have all the clothes I need, so do not worry about me.

 

How do you live?

 

Write to me in Vizhay, I am looking forward to it.

 

Has the cow calved yet?

 

I love milk.

 

How's mom work?

 

How is the dad's health?

 

Moms?

 

How are Galya and Lusya doing at school?

 

 

https://dyatlovpass.com/zinaida-kolmogorova#letter5

 

 

Lusya, try not to have Cs this semester.

 

And Galya turn Ds in sports to Cs.

 

Spend more time on the skis and you need to run more. See you soon and goodbye.

 

Big kisses to you all

 

Your Zina.

 

 

Write to me, I am looking forward to it.

 

Best
26 I 59

 

 

https://dyatlovpass.com/zinaida-kolmogorova#letter5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You can see all diary entries and photos made on that date here: https://dyatlovpass.com/diaries#25jan

 

 

The Dyatlov group got off train №81 (Nadezhdinsk-Polunochnoe) in Ivdel-1 around midnight local time.

They spent the night at the train station, taking turns on duty throughout the night.

At around 6:00 am on January 25, they took a bus from the railway station to the city of Ivdel.

They dropped at the post office to stamp their route books and at around 7:00 am a crowded bus GAZ-51 took them together with Blinov group on a 90 km (56 miles) trip to the village of Vizhay, where they arrived at around 2:00 pm.

The group stamped the route books for the second time at the Post Office at Vizhay.

Parted with Blinov group, watched "Symphonie in Gold", stayed at a guest house.

Dyatlov and Blinov's groups on the bus on the way to Vizhay.

Jan 25.

Doroshenko, Kolmogorova, Krivonischenko, Devyatov (with the mandolin), Svechnikova, and Zolotaryov

The picture was most likely taken on the way to Vizhay.

 

Jan 25.

 

 

Vizhay.

 

Blinov group loading the truck. In the truck: Blinov and Eroshev.

 

Jan 25.

 

 

Vizhay.

 

A group photo of servicemen with part of the Dyatlov and Blinov groups.

 

In the truck (from left to right): Blinov, Eroshev, and Avdeev.

 

Standing: Svechnikova, Kolmogorova, Sinitsyn, Doroshenko (back), Obodova, Krotov (hands over skis), Tamilova, Strelnikov, Kolevatov, Devyatov, Yudin, and Dyatlov.

 

Jan 25.

 

 

Vizhay.

 

A group photo of servicemen with part of the Dyatlov and Blinov groups.

 

Jan 25.

 

In the truck Avdeev with the hood.

 

Left: Blinov.

 

Standing: Doroshenko, Krivonischenko, Svechnikova, Kolmogorova, Sinitsyn, Krotov, Strelnikov, Kolevatov, Yudin, Dyatlov, Devyatov (hat is visible), and Eroshev.

 

Down: Dubinina, officer of military unit 6602, Obodova, Tamilova, officer of military unit 6602.

 

 

Vizhay.

 

A group shot of servicemen with part of the Dyatlov and Blinov groups.

 

Jan 25.

 

Standing: Doroshenko, Dubinina, Krivonischenko, Svechnikova, Kolmogorova, Sinitsyn, Krotov, Strelnikov, Kolevatov, Avdeev, Dyatlov, and Yudin.

 

Sitting: officer of military unit 6602, Obodova, Tamilova, and officer of military unit 6602.

 

 

Timetable for the winter of 1958-1959

 

Timetable for the train №81 they took Serov (Nadezhdinks) - Ivdel 1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The last movie Dyatlov group saw, twice.

 

Once in Vizhay and then it drove with them to District 41 and they saw it again.

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048684/?fbclid=IwAR0oBv7_KrDm2auAX8ivlnAtLrdBVg4_4eshlMSYb-f3f3zZb6iJesdm8Vg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Dyatlov group hitched a ride to the District 41 settlement 40 km (25 miles) north of Vizhay, on a Vizhay logging camp truck with ineffective brakes and broken springs.

 

This ride most probably made Yuri Yudin sick, he turned back two days later avoided the incident.

 

 

 

"Our prayers should be for blessing in general, for God knows best what is good for us." – Socrates

This is one photo where the whole group is present except the photographer, Yuri Krivonischenko.

Left to right: Doroshenko, Yudin helping Zina who's falling from her backpack, above her are Dyatlov and Thibeaux-Brignolle showing Yuri K. the fig sign, Lyuda, Zolotaryov and no reaction from Slobodin.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[fortyck]

At about 10 am on January 26, they sent their last messages to their relatives and friends.

Dyatlov wrote to Pervouralsk, Slobodin to Sverdlovsk, and Kolmogorova to the village of Cheremkhovo.

After lunch, at 1:30 pm, the Dyatlov group hitched a ride to the District 41 settlement 40 km (25 miles) north of Vizhay, on a Vizhay logging camp truck with ineffective brakes and broken springs.

The departure from Vizhay is confirmed by the stamp of the Ivdel MVD corrective labor camp’s office from January 26 in the group's route book.

Around 4:30 pm they arrived at District 41, where they were warmly greeted by civilian workers.

In the evening they were treated to one more cultural program, including two Soviet movies, On His Own (1939), Est takoy paren (1956), and once again the Symphonie in Gold (1956).

Then they spent the night at the District 41 dormitory.

See all diary entries and photos from January 26, 1959 →

https://dyatlovpass.com/diaries#26jan

Dining room in Vizhay.

Igor Dyatlov said with a smirk: "If the tea is cold, then go drink it outside, it will be hot."

Aleksander Kolevatov, photo must be taken around 12-13:00 before Dyatlov group climbed on the back of the Gaz-63

Dyatlov group is in the back of of Gaz-63.

Weather is cold and windy.

They will try to protect themselves with a tent, but Yudin will still get sick.

Last photo from Vizhay.

Yudin is trying to keep Zina from falling from her backpack, Igor and Nikolay are showing Yuri K. the fig sign, no reaction from Doroshenko and Slobodin.

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[fortyck]

These are their last letters to relatives.

 

Dyatlov was also supposed to send telegrams with mandatory checkpoint notification of their coming on the trek to the UPI Sports Club and the Routing Commission city committee for Physical Culture and Sports, but there is no evidence that he did.

 

Perhaps he forgot to do that, as well.

 

Igor Dyatlov card front https://dyatlovpass.com/igor-dyatlov#card

 

Igor Dyatlov back https://dyatlovpass.com/igor-dyatlov#card

 

Rustem Slobodin card front https://dyatlovpass.com/rustem-slobodin#slobodinpc

 

Rustem Slobodin card back https://dyatlovpass.com/rustem-slobodin#slobodinpc

 

Zina Kolmogorova letter: https://dyatlovpass.com/zinaida-kolmogorova#letter1

 

Zina Kolmogorova letter: https://dyatlovpass.com/zinaida-kolmogorova#letter1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Riding along with the hikers was one Aleksey Hatanzeev, head of the “Red Chum” division in the village of Sosva, who was in charge of cultural and propaganda work with the local population; he was traveling to District 41 to organize a film screening.

 

Around 4:30 pm they arrived at District 41, where they were warmly greeted by civilian workers.

 

In the evening they were treated to one more cultural program, including two Soviet movies, My Apprenticeship (1939), Est takoy paren (1956), and once again the Symphonie in Gold (1956).

 

Then they spent the night at the District 41 dormitory.

 

 

https://dyatlovpass.com/whois#hatanzeev

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[fortyck]

Thank you to those who noticed.

 

I was counting a day short.

 

The life of this young people was cut short, I don't want to take one more day away.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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