Tragedia na Przełęczy Diatłowa (1 luty 1959 r.)

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These are photo's taken from the rescue helicopter, heading for the slope.

 

The last photo was taken in the 2000's of a sinkhole in a mining village.

 

Stange to be taken a photo in 1959 by a military rescue helicopter of the same area...

 

Maybe a coincidence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Theres sinkholes all over the world.

 

Today this sinkhole still exist as seen.

 

A coincidence to take the same photo...

 

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Dyatlov Pass incident investigators publish book unlocking its "mysteries"

 

September 14, 2016, 18:39UTC+3

 

According to the head of the Dyatlov Group Memorial Fund, the material gathered while working on the book is sufficient to resume the official investigation.

 

© AP Photo/Mike Alban/archive

YEKATERINBURG, September 14. /TASS/.

The investigators into the hikers group death which occurred at the Dyatlov Pass, in the Northern Urals, overnight to 2 February 1959, have released a new book containing various versions of the tragedy.

According to the head of the Dyatlov Group Memorial Fund, Yuri Kuntsevich, the book describes all the versions of the incident so everybody can find an a key to unlocking this fifty-year-old mystery to his or her liking.

The book entitled "The Dyatlov Pass" contains more than 500 pages, and had 40 people working on the book including researches, people familiar with the investigation of the hikers’ death, and the hikers’ acquaintances.

"I hope that after reading this book people will understand that there is no mystery at all.

Every year we get closer to solving the mystery because new archive materials and testimonies turn up," Kuntsevich told a press conference at the TASS Urals regional center.

He said that the material gathered while working on the book is sufficient to resume the official investigation.

"This August a metal piece that could be a munition or an aircraft piece, was found 55 kilometers away from the place where the hikers’ corpses had been discovered.

This testifies to the fact that a military testing ground used to be there.

We are waiting for the experts to say what it was exactly", the head of the Fund added.

So far, 200 copies of the book have been published.

A map of the route that Dyatlov Group followed from January 26 to February 1, 1959, comes with the book.

The place where the group members died is indicated on the map.

The book points to a few possible causes of the tragedy such as a missile falling, man-made disaster, chemical explosion, military or nuclear test conducted in the area.

This is the first of a three-book series, the second one is due out in October.

New versions should be based on documents

Writer Oleg Arkhipov, who is carrying out a separate investigation, told TASS that it is too early to draw any conclusions on the cause of the group members’ death.

 

Recently in Yekaterinburg, he came across a new archive compiled by a member of the investigation team from Ivdel (Sverdlovsk region).

 

The archive consists of 200 documents.

 

"I am not disclosing the details yet.

 

I looked for this archive for four years, there are more than 200 official documents that were not included in the case.

 

This archive has yet to be assessed," Arkhipov stressed.

 

He explained that these documents will not shed light on the cause of the hikers’ death.

 

"We can’t say that these papers will help in drawing a final conclusion.

 

But the archival research is the only thing that makes sense.

 

The archive of the Sverdlovsk KGB is the most important one but they are not opened yet.

 

As far as I know, there are some documents concerning this case but until they are made public there is no sense in setting out versions", Arkhipov said.

 

Tragedy in Otorten Mountain

Nine hikers died in the Northern Urals near the Otorten Mountain (translated from the mansi language as Mountain of the Dead) during the night of 1 to 2 February 1959, under ambiguous circumstances.

 

The group was comprised of skiers from the tourist club of the Urals Polytechnichal Institute in Sverdlovsk.

 

There were five students, three engineers and a tourist camp instructor.

 

The group leader’s name was Igor Dyatlov.

 

After the group members didn’t check in and the time set up for their return had passed, a search operation was organized.

 

Their corpses were discovered in different places far from their tent.

 

According to the forensic medical report, most of the hikers froze to death.

 

However, there were serious injuries on some of the bodies that could have caused their deaths.

 

Various versions of the incident were examined, including an avalanche hitting the tent, an attack by fugitive prisoners, an attack by the indigenous Mansi inhabitants, a brawl among the group members, an explosion by a missile flying over the pass and some other theories.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Żródło: http://tass.com/society/899804

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Where lgor Dyatlov lived with his parents, today TV satalite and antenna.

 

Igor would have had a antenna for his radio transmission...

 

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The cedar tree Krivonshchenko and Doroshenko was to have climb the tree because skin of there hand was found on the tree...

 

Which the skin was not tested to belong to the hikers...

 

lnvestigators said the tree was climbed by the hikers, but without proper examination of the skin how would they know...

 

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By Kizilov Gennady lvanovich.

 

Which is translated from Russian to English.

 

From the diary entries, and the opinion of lvanovich.

 

The route and developed photographic films of tourists it is seen that on 28.01.59 the group went upstream of the river lozvy, 30.01.59.

 

The group continued its movement, on 31.01.59 the tourists came to the river Auspii and tried to pass by the pass to the low temperature and strong wind they had to go back down and stopped for the night 1.02.59 in the upper reaches of the river Auspia tourist built a storage, in which they left a supply of food and all unnecessary equipment.

 

Returning to the river valley on january 31, Auspia and knowing about the difficult terrain relief, 1079 where the ascent was supposed to be, Dyatlov as the group leader made a gross mistake, expressed in the fact that the group began the ascent of 1.02.59 at 15-00 only.

 

Later on the ski trail, which was preserved at the time of the searches, it was possible to establish that, moving to the valley of the fourth tributary of the lozva river.

 

The tourist took 500-600 m to the left and instead of the pass formed by the peaks 1079 mountain and 880 slope.

 

This was Dyatlov's second mistake.

 

Using light day time on the ascent to the top of the 1079 mountain, in conditions of strong wind that is usual in this area, and low temperature, on the order of 25-30c.

 

Woodpeckers found themselves at unprofitable conditions for overnighting and decided to breaks the tent on the slope of the summit 1709 mountain so that the next morning without losing altitude, go to the mountain Otorten, to which the line remained about 10km...

 

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Igor Dyatlov.

 

It's said Igor was very proud command.

 

Everything is so outraged by his behavior that did not comply with his team.

 

Then he went away from everyone and went on hunger strike.

 

All errors are attributed to him (ordinary in the unit he was good executive).

 

According to students who knew him.

 

 

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Some points Yuri Yudin mentions about Zolotarev secret camera...

 

The camera became a surprise to Yuri Yudin.

 

He assumed the group only had four camera's that was found in the tent then suddenly a 5th.

 

This is if a 5th camera was in the camera case around Zolotarev's in the ravine as he laid dead.

 

If so did Zolotarev bring two camera's on the trip...

 

The one he left in the tent everyone knew about which Zolotarev would use in the day.

 

But why was yuri surprised, this means the camera must have been hidden if Yuri was puzzled.

 

It was only noticed after he died...

 

Strange...

 

 

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They traveled up the hill on dense snow and blizzards.

 

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The hikers took the journey past Boot rock, on to Kholat Mountain.

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Opublikowany 14 wrz 2017

 

Эта история до сих пор считается самой загадочной.

Перевал Дятлова — одна из гор, между которых он расположен, у местных племен носит зловещее название «Гора мертвецов».

Именно здесь, 1 февраля 1959 года, погибли девять туристов из группы Игоря Дятлова.

Более 50 лет никто так и не может узнать, что же случилось с лыжниками в ту роковую ночь.

Было это преднамеренное убийство, расправа местных жителей манси над «чужаками» или банальная трагическая случайность?

Сотни версий, ни одна из которых до сих пор так и не стала истинной.

Сегодня в студии программы «На самом деле» – настоящая сенсация.

Детектор лжи снимает гриф «секретно» с дела о перевале Дятлова.

Оставшиеся в живых свидетели и родственники трагически погибших расскажут всей России правду об одной из самых загадочных трагедий XX века.

Żródło: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX9-cJy8dZWDI8hCnmahuLA

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I know guys most of you don't understand Russian.

 

But I still want to share this recent TV show that used lie detectors for the participants together with pretty good logic in approaching the matter.

 

There were many speakers.

 

Kuntsevic said he thought that Zolotarev was involved as a KGB agent and that the group had a certain task to perform.

 

That is why Zolotarev was rescued by a helicopter at the very last moment and someone else's body was brought there later.

 

This was Kuntsevich opinion.

 

However none of the rescue party was summoned to KGB and signed any agreement to keep silence.

 

This would not be possible if any state secret were involved.

 

The search party members kept saying this (that they didn't sign any agreements with KGB) but many people thought they were just not quite honest about it.

 

This time the lie detector showed they were saying truth.

 

It is rather local authorities but not KGB who didn't want the general public to know who killed the group (but we don't know why).

 

The main contribution to the show was made by number 1 Russian coroner Eduard Tumanov who explained that it was not any chemical, explosion or other trauma related to weapon tests or rocket crash.

 

He explained that the skin color has nothing unusual about it in this case.

 

The students, according to him, "were being killed by the hands of humans".

 

They did fight back, there was a fight.

 

When asked by the show host of his opinion about what happened there Tumanov just said: "They were scared by somebody or something standing next to the entrance to the tent.

 

That is why they couldn't use the entrance.

 

Later some of them tried to hide in the woods."

 

There was a politician who represents the Khanty - Mansi in parlament of Russia.

 

He was asked a question - could it be that local hunters killed the group bs it entered their sacred place?"

 

His answer was: no, indigenous people are serious about entering their territory but not to this extent."

 

For the first time it was voiced that it indeed was a sacred territory.

 

As far as I understand this show came to the point that it was a murder by some criminals.

 

I believe it narrows down the options to gold-diggers, escaped convicts or some other individuals that found themselves at that place at that time?

 

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The tent was also examined by a kriminalistich expert, the name used in hibinaud files.

 

The tent was carefully examined, the tent went under a microscope.

 

My opinion it doesn't seem right how the tent was cut, as they panicked knowing it was there survival.

 

I first believe military years ago but if military they would not let no one near the slope no matter who they was until the mess was clean and the area, but somehow the scene was left in an unusual way.

 

Then i thought the cold weather which has been tested by most but there was some loopholes in the theory of the cold...

 

This is what the expert said who examined the tent...

 

Sheet 304 of the case, of 3 systems of threads is warp and weft interwoven perpendicular to each other.

 

The damage resulting in a rupture unusually follows the line of least resistance i.e.

 

Tear either filament of a duck or warp threads such damage is unusually very smooth and has right angles.

 

The incision under any conditions always disrupted both those and other threads as at different angles randomly cut only either the threads of the weft or warp threads is almost impossible /cm. scheme number...

 

As a result of the foregoing and when examining the edges of all the damages on the tent, it can be concluded that three damage conditionally marked, no 1.2.3.

 

Sharp weapon /Knife/ i.e. are cuts yet the rest of the damage is a rupture.

 

Damage no1 has a shape in the form of a broken straight line is a small puncture of canvas in 2 cm, the corners of the hole are TORN /cm photo 4...l, ll end here...

 

This is the update of hibinaud.

 

Why go through all this trouble to destroy the tent then walk...

 

The tent was tested for chemicals which they found none.

 

So nothing exploded near the tent...

 

There was no trouble from the morning of the 1st but photos can be in error...

 

They found traces of pyrite on the backpacks but whos all of them, if carried pyrite where did the rocks go because of traces...

 

Yuri Yudin saw nuclear fallout material in the abandoned huts labeled...

 

The authorities knew where the Mansi live loggers lived sixs miles or more away...

 

The abandoned hut the driver was surprised to see the abandoned hut empty who took them by horse and sledge...

 

But in some photos of the abandoned huts some unusual figures was photographed...

 

My opininon someone could have cut the tent...

 

 

 

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The tent.

 

Broken skipoles was found inside at the back of the tent.

 

A cut skipole was found among the skipoles at the back...

 

One said the blankets was in a knot but Sharavin and Slobtsov said the blankets was laid out...

 

ln the documents one interrogation said there was three blankets inside the tent spread out.

 

Most of there things like backpacks was empty according to Slobtsov they use to warm there feet in the cold...

 

A icepick was found outside near the entrance which was used by Sharavin to hit the tent...

 

 

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The morning of the 1st 1959 at the edge of the woods...

 

The spot where they stood.

 

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The diagram of the stove in the tent, Krivonishchenko would complain all night, Krivonishchenko was picked to sleep near the stove and would curse and row till morning ...

 

When a searcher saw the tent inside a pipe was found in the oven and the stove dismantled...

 

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Fact (1) - At the time of the cold war nothing left Russia under tragedy only success made the paper.

 

When the russian Luna was launched on the 2nd of January 1959 it only made small column in the russian paper and front page news around the world.

 

The Mansi did a drawing of a glow over Dyatlov pass date was seen on the 2nd of February 1959 which criminal prosecutor lvanov destroyed the drawing.

 

Slobtsov said it's possible in error because luna was launched on the 2nd of January 1959...

 

Fact (2) - Many today believe the hikers got the high radiation from a reactor and some authors believe of Krivonishchenko jumper, but not according to the physic report the radiation was low and normal for that era through tests and the report says no neutron flux meaning no nuclear reactors contamination on the clothes.

 

Fact (3) - Ludmila's mouth was completely gone the full muscle of her tongue root and aperture was missing.

 

Fact (4) - in hibinaud Ludmila horn hyoid bone was loose, but not fractured in young people like Ludmila the horn hyoid bone is stable as they get older the horn bone becomes loose the coroner said unusual mobility meaning the horn bone shouldn't be loose yet.

 

Was this a sign for torture by grabbing the top part of her throat...

 

Fact (5) - when Zina was found the investigator radio back that Zina had a damage skull or head wound, but this is not in the autopsy report...

 

Fact (6) - when they found Doroshenko along side Krivonishchenko by the cedar tree they thought it was Zolotarev...

 

Fact (7) - Sharavin said in a late interview they banned the Mansi of Kholat mountain for seven years, the fact Sharavin said this was it true.

 

Fact (8) - Zolotarev spoke four language German Polish, Ukraine and his native language russian...

 

Fact (9) - Doroshenko was famous at school hiking club he chased a large bear away with a geologist hammer while hiking with Zina...

 

Fact (10) - Ludmila was a dedicated outspoken communist.

 

Fact (11) - Yuri Yudin had chronic rheumatism.

 

Fact (12) - Kolevatov enjoyed smoking antique pipes.

 

Fact (13) - When they found Doroshenko he had a packet of cigarettes in his pocket...

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Fact (1) - Russia was involved with ESP Extrasensory perception or sixth sense, the DIA was concerned, focused on the possibility that Soviet success with ESP may allow the Soviet to obtain knowledge from U.S. secrets, and possible was used in what happened to the Dyatlov group.

 

Fact (2) - Tempalova head investigator built his first assumptions of the death of the student from the use of alcohol.

 

Fact (3) - The tent was half fastened inside.

 

Fact (4) - lgor Dyatlov as been on a category 3 before according to Maslennikov but Igor wasn't the leader in the lower parts of the Urals.

 

Fact (5) - Kholat mountains real name is 1079 this is the height of the mountain.

 

Fact (6) - Stepan Kurikov the Mansi head searcher on the slope was involved in another man hunt to track a murderer who was a Mansi who murdered someone Kurikov helped capture the culprit.

 

Fact (7) - Stepan Kurikov his son was investigated for murder possible killed Burmantov, Stepan brought him in and said heres the murderer Prodanov was first secretary of lvdel party committee who investigated the Mansi murder...

 

Fact (8) - The same time the nine hikers was dead vice president Nixon was in Moscow with Khrushchev.

 

Fact (9) - lvanov head criminal prosecutor, drove past the topic with the KGB and order to avoid questions about the oddities of physical and technical expertise, he did not say anything about the Sverdlovsk regional ses and doctor Levashov, according to A. Rakitin the author.

 

Fact (10) - A. Rakitin wrote a book saying spies and the KGB killed the hikers by saying the radiation was mandatory gamma quata?according to Rakitin.

 

Fact (11) - No KGB were there Tchernyshov's group consisted of the staff of the MIA, hunters pathfinders who was specially trained to catch escaped criminals in taiga...

 

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The journey the Dyatlov group took on the 1st 1959...

 

1. Stopped in the woods,

 

2. Auspil valley,

 

3. Then to the slope,

 

4. Walked from the tent in terror to the ravine...

 

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Drawing of the slope by investigator, interpreted into English first.

 

On the third ridge a flashlight was found switched off botton...

 

The 1079 mountain stands to the left from the tent...

 

 

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Fact (1) - At the time of the cold war nothing left Russia under tragedy only success made the paper, when the russian Luna was launched on the 2nd of January 1959 it only made small column in the russian paper and front page news around the world, the mansi did a drawing of a glow over Dyatlov pass date was seen on the 2nd of February 1959 which criminal prosecutor lvanov destroyed the drawing, Slobtsov said it's possible in error because Luna was launched on the 2nd of January 1959...

 

Fact (2) - Many today believe the hikers got the high radiation from a reactor and some authors believe of Krivonishchenko jumper, but not according to the physic report the radiation was low and normal for that era through tests and the report says no neutron flux meaning no nuclear reactors contamination on the clothes.

 

Fact (3) - Ludmila's mouth was completely gone the full muscle of her tongue root and aperture was missing.

 

Fact (4) - In hibinaud Ludmila horn hyoid bone was loose, but not fractured in young people like Ludmila the horn hyoid bone is stable as they get older the horn bone becomes loose the coroner said unusual mobility meaning the horn bone shouldn't be loose yet, was this a sign for torture by grabbing the top part of her throat...

 

Fact (5) - When Zina was found the investigator radio back that Zina had a damage skull or head wound, but this is not in the autopsy report...

 

Fact (6) - When they found Doroshenko along side Krivonishchenko by the cedar tree they thought it was Zolotarev...

 

Fact (7) - Sharavin said in a late interview they banned the Mansi of Kholat mountain for seven years, the fact Sharavin said this was it true.

 

Fact (8) - Zolotarev spoke four language German, Polish, Ukraine and his native language Russian...

 

Fact (9) - Doroshenko was famous at school hiking club he chased a large bear away with a geologist hammer while hiking with Zina...

 

Fact (10) - Ludmila was a dedicated outspoken communist.

 

Fact (11) - Yuri Yudin had Chronic rheumatism.

 

Fact (12) - Kolevatov enjoyed smoking antique pipes.

 

Fact (13) - When they found Doroshenko he had a packet of cigarettes in his pocket...

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Fact (1) - There are eight hikes, nine with the photographer in this last photo.

 

Fact (2) - Reborn the coroner said Closed cranial trauma caused by a blunt instrument it cause a state of momentary stun he could move and crawl...

 

Fact (3) - It is well known that freezing human coordination worsens the reaction rate slows.

 

Fact (4) - Freezing to death the muscles deteriorate possession of the body there is an annoying clumsiness damage by freezing to limbs of people who died of hypothermia brusies on the hands knees face are well known forensic and discribed for along time...

 

Fact (5) - Benjamin Radford who wrote a review of Yeti Killer film on 1st june said a tongue eating Yeti even assumig it exists is by far the least likely explanation... Radford was invited on the film...

 

Fact (6) - Dr Vozrozhdenniy stated that the fatal injuries of the three bodies could not have been caused by another human being too strong and no soft tissues he been damaged...

 

Fact (7) - One investigator said why is the underpant on the outside it do not make sence...

 

Fact (8) - Rima Kolevatova wrote a letter to Khrushchev himself on feb 26 1959 about her brother and the rest did not return, Rima Kolevatova made an incorrect date she said on the 14th April 1959 the group had to return in Sverdlovsk on 14 to 15 February on the 12th, the telegram arrived on the 27th February 1959.

 

Fact (9) - A fact Sharavin and Koptelov went down the slope and seen Doroshenko and Krivonshchenko and they said they was under a blanket, this started a discussion througth the years, the wording may have said a blanket of snow... a close up they was covered in a blanket of snow in the photo there is no blanket...

 

Fact (10) - Another tent ws seen by the rescue helicopter and was mistaken for the Dyatlov tent a body was seen outside the tent, thought to be dead, it turned out to be the Grebennik group resting outside there tent...

 

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Fact (1) - Donnie Eichar book says on the 22th, lvanov ordered the caskets to be closed because the famlies had requested an open casket lvanov latter regretted this decision as revealed in 1990 this was an interview with sverdlovsk journalist (there is photos with the hikers caskets open ?).

 

Fact (2) - The portyanki is a piece of white cloth which wrap around the feet of military used as socks, till it was stopped in 2013, it was said a puttee was seen by Yuri Yudin, the puttee is military green? Zolotarev would know about the portyanki...

 

Fact (3) - They was forced to find new methods of clearing the path for the skis, one member leaving his pack on the ground and walks forward then return and rest for 15min its hard to move with tge gear we start fir with logs piercings winds tired and exhusted.

 

Fact (4) - The story of Dyatlov was not spread by sociaty but by documents through the years, it starts with a telegram on February 26th 1959 the older sister of one of the missing hikers Alexander Rima Kolevatova sent a telegram to Khrushchev...

 

Fact (5) - There is no log given to Moscow of tourist such details of time and temperature there in no such information, in the diaries of Zina or Ludmila and the general log of the group this is to believe not all evidence was presented in the official files.

 

Fact (6) - A letter was wrote to Khrushchev about what happened and it was put, the immediate cause of death was a hurricane, it was said if a hurricane why hide the document, they said died of accident but never put what tge accident was ?

 

Fact (7) - Nurse Solter always meant 10 participants of Dyatlovs team including Yuri Yudin, according to all indication a lost girl was out of place that was brought in to hospital for sanitary disposal together with Zina, by accident.

 

Fact (8) - Although Ludmila and Zina's diaries wasn't submitted properly, Petrov tracked the way of the case studying its documents he appeared when the case was returned from Moscow on 11.7.1959 and after having been checked Klinov had ordered to classify a case as secret as well as several pages had been selected into strictly confidential pages...

 

Fact (9) - Strange story with Zolotarev and his settlement in the apartment, Sorgina jr categorically refused to recognize the case material in 2012, what was he afraid of, what can a person who was involved in secrets of this case fear for more than half a century, the scene of the crime excuses as if he personally printed them normally, people understand that he could not be allowed to take photographs of these photos he saw them and claimed that these photos were even kept in the house...

 

Fact (10) - The daughter of criminal investigator Lev lvanov sent a letter to a russian forum explaining that her father had the original photos kept at his home in 1959 and that the authorities went to his home and told him to destroy them, Lev lvanov copied the original photos and destroyed the original ones, the copies was hid till the day lvanov die...

 

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Fact (1) - Maslennikov say according to regulations the head of the campaign III in winter time should have experience of leadership of campaign II, and category difficulty, lgor Dyatlov took part in category III in 1958 along the subpoler.

 

Fact (2) - Coroner Eduard Tumanov in 2017 said no chemical explosion or landing on or near the tent, Tumanov said they was scared by someone...

 

Fact (3) - A representation of the Mansi admitted the Dyatlov area was sacred on Russian TV, no one as disputed the claim, even though Mansi denied the area was not sacred in 1959.

 

Fact (4) - Karelin who catergorically denies today the myth of the death squad was one of the first who forty years ago put forward a version about participation in blood drama, he put forward only an armed group of 10 people could frighten the group the truth was it wasn't Karelin opinion, not quite.

 

Fact (5) - In the sixies some purges of archives were removed from some cases and incomplete copies were written for them and placed in the UD, for example in 1963 documents from the case of fanny Kaplan were with drawn in the mid 60s Khrushchev was dismissed...

 

Fact (6) - Brezhnev came to power they cleaned up the archives or did the old workes clean up the traces so that for some reason they could not be restored and the guilty ones punished, a code SSR which was introduced in the early 60s.

 

Fact (7) - A fact the report says only beta was found, alpha, beta and gamma, alpha can easly be contained and stops alpha can't enter the body skin, beta enters past the suface skin of the human body into the muscle which can damage the muscle, but not deep enough like the heart gamma waves can go straight through the body... just trying to give an easy example to some.

 

Fact (8) - Kornev said this trauma could arise already after death because of blood infiltration in cardia wall.

 

Fact (9) - One forensic expert who wished to be anonymous said of the injuries could also in some ways when a man take his arms and legs and with mighty force hit a tree...

 

Fact (10) - Alexander Kolevatov the neck is long and a thin deformed in the area of the thyriod cartilage above the thyroid gland when found in the ravine...