Tragedia na Przełęczy Diatłowa (1 luty 1959 r.)

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Dyatlov Pass mystery victims could have been on KGB mission — researcher

 

https://tass.com/society/889813?fbclid=IwAR2lUuTESs4RNR0jGchJk5XVdSo9dlAWKj9sxnD2-SVoO51esVUNXdv4Cy0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yuri Yudin's diary

 

Transcript of the diary in English

 

https://dyatlovpass.com/yuri-yudin-diary

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yudin - the sole survivor from Dyatlov Pass

DYATLOV PASS·PIĄTEK, 19 LIPCA 2019

 

Ill Yuri Yudin embraces Lyudmila Dubinina goodbye. They will never see each other again.

It is unlikely that today the name of Yuri Yudin, the former deputy head of Solikamsk for economics, would have been so widely discussed outside the Urals if it were not for the tragedy that took place on February 2, 1959 with a group of hikers led by Igor Dyatlov on the pass at Kholat Syakhl.

Yuri Yudin, born July 19 1937, died April 27 2013 aged 75

As is known, sixty years ago, the mutilated bodies of young climbers were found there.

All nine. In addition to one survivor - Yuri Yudin. As a student of the Urals Polytechnic Institute, he made it in the group of ten, who went on this ill fated trip.

What was it - an accident or a planned military operation, and what is the role of a Solikamsk official in it?

Was he in love?

 

Citing "Komsomolskaya Pravda" from April 29, 2013, in which it was reported about the death of the tenth (survivor) member of Dyatlov group, Yuri Yudin until the end of days kept a fluffy toy - a teddy bear, gift from Lyudmila Dubinina.

She gave him this toy shortly before her death.

Luda’s life was cut short on the same pass where a few days before they planned to go along with Yura.

She was the youngest of the group - only 20 years old.

When they found her lifeless body, the girl had 10 broken ribs.

Lyudmila Dubinina

Until the end of his days, the surviving member of Dyatlov group Yuri Yudin reproached himself that he didn't save Lyudochka.

He never married, and this started the famous romantic legend.

Was it true or not we will never know.

Yuri Yefimovich himself always denied a love relationship with Lyuda:
— There was nothing like that between us.

We were all good friends, and nothing else!

At that time, the relationship between young people was completely different than now.

We slept side by side in the same tent and under the same blanket, but there was nothing intimate.

However, shortly before her mysterious death, Lyudmila made the following entry in her diary:
“…Yurka Yudin is going back home today.

It is a pity, of course, to part with him, especially for Zina and me, but we can't do anything about it….”

Frame from the feature film "The Secret of the Mountain of the Dead" 2013

In this very film, Yuri Yudin says:
“It was a sad farewell for everyone.

We went there with a porter and when he was already hurrying back.

Come on, come on, faster, so all goodbyes were rushed and sad.

They gave me a mascot, a teddy bear.

I still keep it, this mascot.”

Yudin holding the mascot Lyuda gave him.

Today, the teddy bear is kept in the Dyatlov Foundation (Kuntsevich residence). Photo

Guilty without guilt

 

Until the end of his days, the surviving member of Dyatlov group from Solikamsk was tormented by guilt not only because of the death of the girl, but also of the other eight comrades.

— Then he used to live all his life, came every year on February 2 to Yekaterinburg at the cemetery and was saying to his friends with tears in his eyes: “I should have been with you,” recalled Sergey Sogrin, one of the rescuers who took part in the search for the group in 1959.

Maybe things could have been different had he continued, maybe they could have lived?

Yuri Yefimovich repeatedly told journalists and documentalists how he set off under the leadership of Igor Dyatlov on that same fatal trek to the Mountain of the Dead.

Yudin explained: already in route, his sciatic nerve inflamed.

The pain was unbearable, I had to go home.

— When we drove in the back of the truck there was a strong draft, he explained hurriedly.

- I have radiculitis from a young age...

At first I thought that this was temporary, it would pass, this happened to me many times.

One time when we went with Dyatlov Altay the doctor wrote a referral to me there, and where I could get help from first-aid posts on the trip.

They wrote that I had "erythema", it was summer, I could warm my leg and lower back in the sun.

But then in the back of the truck we had no cover, the wind was blowing on us, I reached 2nd Northern, and then it got even worse...

What else can I say...

I hoped that it would pass...

By the way, Yuri Yudin didn't believe that the cause of the death of his friends was a natural disaster, in particular an avalanche.

He adhered to the theory that they were victims of tests of super-powerful weapons, after all, not so far from the pass, now called after the leader of the group was a military testing ground.

Meanwhile, theories have been piling up around the name of Yuri Yefimovich one after another, which even today can be found in the forums dedicated to the Dyatlov Pass case.

Say, Yuri Yudin personally from the special services learned about the danger threatening his hiking group and cowardly chose to run away, but the guys went to perform an important military mission.

One can imagine the acute sense of guilt that has poisoned him the next half century of life.

Another theory: Yudin knew more than he told reporters, since he was made by the Federal Security Service sign non disclosure for military secrets.

Yudin gave food for such rumors himself.

He moved to Solikamsk and kept silent about being the tenth sole survivor in the ill-fated Dyatlov group.

Yudin in Solikamsk

 

A year after the tragic events, Yuri Yefimovich graduated from the engineering and economics department of the Ural Polytechnic Institute.

He was sent to Solikamsk to work at a local magnesium plant, and he stayed in this city after his term was up.

This was for the good of the local residents.

28 Jan 1959 in 2nd Northern settlement - Yuri Yudin holding geological core

According to the recollections of people who knew him, Yudin was the soul of the company, cheerful, resourceful, energetic.

Very quickly around this charismatic person, with passion for hiking, rallied a circle of young people who grew up over time in the hiking club "Polyus".

Yuri Yudin was his indisputable leader until the end of his days .

Valentina Vezner, a resident of Solikamsk, recalled Yuri with nostalgia:
— He actively participated not only in the work of our club, but also closely contacted both the society for the protection of nature and the society for preservation of architectural monuments.

We, the hikers, watched over the cultural monuments so that they did not fall apart.

Everything that we found valuable in the treks (ancient crafts, household items and tools), Yuri collected and carried away to the regional museum, where they are now stored.

According to another Solikamian, Yuri Kuntsevich, Yudin was an extraordinary man.

They went hiking together.

"Although Yuri Yefimovich was already approaching seventy, he never complained about difficulties along the way.

On the contrary, he was always ready to help weaker comrades.

We, of course, felt sorry for him and did not allow him to carry our luggage, as he wanted."

The people who knew Yudin were amazed by one more feature: he was sincere and at the same time so interesting to talk to that one immediately feels respect toward him.

He communicated with everyone at his own level, without lowering his high intellectual standards.

In the nineties, Yuri Efimovich was waiting for his career to take off - he was appointed deputy head of the city for economic policy.

And this did Solikamsk only good.

It was he who pushed through some significant projects for the local culture.

Irina Kiyashko, a resident of the city, in her documentary film "The Tenth. A Life-Long Hike" names him with inspiration a deputy mayor and just a good person:

— I think Solikamsk was extremely fortunate that fate brought to the city such an extraordinary and bright person.

The wide horizon of Yuri Yudin amazed everyone who had been in contact with him.

He was not just an avid hiker and selfless mentor of youth.

Even working on economic development in the city administration, Yuri Yefimovich found time to address issues of culture, ecology, the preservation of historical and natural monuments, and the patriotic education of schoolchildren.

It was he who stood at the origins of the creation in Solikamsk of the mineralogical museum and the Oleinikov Museum of Artists, preparing documents for the transfer of the Ust-Borovsky salt factory under the auspices of UNESCO.

Despite his intense social activities and active life position, Yuri Yudin remained a very lonely person until the end of his days.

As Irina Kiyashko correctly noted in her documentary film, he probably deliberately loaded herself with an abundance of work in order to be less alone with the ghosts of the nine comrades whom he had deserted in their last expedition ...

Especially Lyuda, a very cute, very brave girl.

Shortly before his death, the seventy-five-year-old man locked himself in an apartment, to friends and acquaintances he explained the reclusion as follows: I am writing a novel about the Dyatlov Pass.

When, after a while, they found the body of the pensioner Yudin, they did not find the manuscript of the novel, only a lot of newspaper clippings about the ill-fated pass and attempts to substantiate what had happened.

He died at 75 from rheumatic heart disease.

The ashes of Yuri Yudin are buried in Mihaylovskoe cemetery, next to the remains of the other seven members of Dyatlov group.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Юрий Юдин - участник группы Дятлова

 

Turn on CC (Closed Captioning) and auto-translate to English.

 

 

 

Видео "Комсомольской правды".

 

Здесь оригинал https://www.alt.kp.ru/daily/26789/382...

 

Видео поставлено в качестве иллюстрации для поста "Фальшивые съемки, объяснение странностям дневников группы Дятлова.

 

Конец дятловедения" - https://gorojanin-iz-b.livejournal.co...

 

Чем оно интересно?

 

На

Юдин благоразумно "ничего не помнит" про обстоятельства знаменитой фотографии "прощание с Дубининой на 2-м Северном".

 

Фотомонтажа, как и все съемки дятловцев с 27.01.1959.

 

В остальное время уходит от простейшего вопроса: кто нес уникальную палатку дятловцев?

 

Потому что на него невозможно ответить))

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Тайна горы мертвецов.

 

Перевал Дятлова Фильм HD

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGYhjIbqxdM

 

 

 

 

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В основе фильма "Тайна горы мертвецов.

 

Перевал Дятлова" лежит история, которая произошла в Свердловске в 1959 году, когда группа туристов-лыжников, в основном состоявшая из студентов-пятикурсников "Уральского политехнического института", а также одного выпускника того же вуза и инструктора местной "туристической базы (всего 9 человек), отправляется в лыжный переход по маршруту поселок Ивдель – поселок Вижай.

 

Возглавлял группу один из студентов УПИ Игорь Дятлов.

 

Позже ее так и назовут: группа Дятлова.

 

Протяженность маршрута должна была составить не менее 350 км.

 

По критериям того времени переход можно было отнести к категории "особой сложности".

 

В конце января 1959 года, вопреки ожиданиям родственников и близких, группа не вышла в намеченное время и в назначенное место.

 

Первыми забили тревогу родственники.

 

Именно они настояли на вылете к месту возможного исчезновения туристов группы спасателей.

 

И уже через несколько дней у горы Холатчахль (в переводе с языка манси - "Гора мертвецов") спасатели обнаруживают брошенную палатку.

 

Чуть позже находят тела первых троих погибших.

 

Через несколько дней - еще двоих.

 

Четверых последних обнаружат только в начале мая 1959 года, когда сойдет снег.

 

Уже с самых первых дней исследование тел погибших и характер обнаруженных ранений – а в ряде случаев, как установило следствие, именно они стали причиной гибели туристов - порождают множество слухов о причинах их гибели.

 

Уже в те дни по Свердловску гуляют самые невероятные версии: попали в зону испытаний нового оружия, убили беглые заключенные, охотники-манси и так далее.

 

Вскоре волну этих слухов подстегивает информация о том, что, так и не найдя причин гибели людей, следственные органы закрывают дело.

 

Якобы чуть ли не по личному распоряжению главы КГБ СССР тех лет – Александра Шелепина.

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Maslennikov Evgeniy Polikarpovich, (1924-1983) Master of Sports, Head of the UPI sports club, leading the search operation in 1959.

 

He was expecting the search to be over in a much shorter period of time, hence the 12 sheet first notebook.

 

The second notebook is four time bigger.

 

The reality got to him.

 

And the searches were still far from over.

Transcript in both Russian and English is published for first time on https://dyatlovpass.com/maslennikov-notebook

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The real deal is Maslennikov's second notebook, the so called "notebook with brown cover".

 

The notebook entirely scanned has never been published before.

 

Karelin, who has in his possession both Maslennikov's notebooks gave access to Komsomolskaya Pravda, who only published scans of a few pages, and nothing has been translated before.

 

As I said - Maslennikov was expecting the search to be over in a much shorter period of time, hence the 12 sheet first notebook https://dyatlovpass.com/maslennikov-notebook

The second notebook is four times bigger and with thicker covers.

 

It will be published in its entirety in both Russian and English same time tomorrow.

 

Its contents raises some very controversial questions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Maslennikov 2nd notebook.

 

Maslennikov Evgeniy Polikarpovich, (1924-1983) Master of Sports, Head of the UPI sports club, leading the search operation in 1959.

 

Maslennikov's notebooks were not part of the criminal case.

 

They have never been looked at during the investigation.

 

This is the first time when they have been published in their entirety with full transcript in both Russian and English.

 

The second book raises some controversial questions.

 

It is a very interesting reading about the way search was executed, the moral climate and how time and findings affected the rescue members.

 

Also the reaction of the leaders.

 

Do you see any traces of cover up or attempts to obstruct the search or hide evidence?

 

Don't just read other people's opinion, make up your own mind.

 

Here are the writings of the man who lead the search.

 

https://dyatlovpass.com/maslennikov-notebook-2?rbid=18461

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Maslennikov 2nd notebook

DYATLOV PASS·CZWARTEK, 25 LIPCA 2019·9 MINUTES

 

Evgeniy Polikarpovich Maslennikov

Evgeniy Polikarpovich Maslennikov (1924-1983) Master of Sports, Head of the UPI sports club, leading the search operation in 1959.

His notebooks were not part of the criminal case.

They have never been looked at during the investigation.

You can find them scanned with full transcript in both Russian and English on the following links.

This is the first time when they have been published in their entirety.

Notebook 1 (12 sheets)
Notebook 2 (brown cover)

The two notebooks are currently in possession of Karelin.

Vladislav Georgievich Karelin

Vladislav Georgievich Karelin (born 1932) in 1959 UPI student, leader of a rescue group 25-Feb-1959 dropped off on Kholat Syakhl, he and soldiers from Lt. Potapov group found with their probes the body of Slobodin on 5-Mar-1959.

Here is his story, how he got involved in the case.

Karelin group finished a trek to Mount Molebny Kamen from 9 to 24 Feb 1959.

They started in the area of the upper sources Nyols river towards Mount Sampalchakhl 910 where Dyatlov group was supposed to end their trek at the same time.

Both groups had discussed meeting near Oykachakhl 1322.

When Dyatlov was a no show Karelin didn't made big deal of it and they continued their way.

Two weeks later 25 Feb 1959 in a dining room at the train station of Serov city a man, calling himself a representative of Northern geological party, approached the hikers and asked casually "Aren't they searching for you?"

They answered warily "What do you mean search?

We are not due yet."

They called hastily Sverdlovsk and learned from Orlov about the missing Dyatlov group.

They were summoned to participate in the search operation.

Two of the members, Goryachko and Granin, were in no shape to continue and were sent back to Sverdlovsk.

The other six members: Vladislav Karelin, Georgiy Atmanaki, Boris Borisov, Evgeniy Serdityh, Vladimir Skutin and Vladimir Shavkunov joined the rescuers in Ivdel by train same day at 11 pm.

Back to the notebook in hand. It is not a diary, but the entries and radiograms are dated.

Some are out or order, some are not present in the case files, no difference here as anything about this case - confusing and dubious.

Not clear if intentionally or because of stress and harsh environment.

It is a very interesting reading about the way search was executed, the moral climate and how time and findings affected the rescue members.

Also the reaction of the leaders.

Do you see any traces of cover up or attempts to obstruct the search or hide evidence?

Don't just read other people's opinion, make up your own mind. Here are the writings of the man who lead the search. It's a good start.

I will give you some pointers that I found interesting while reading.

What happened to the original Evening Otorten?

 

The original is not in the criminal case.

Moreover, none of the searchers saw it in the tent.

Maslennikov did not see the flyer in the tent himself.

On 4.III (can be seen on previous page of the notebook) Pavlov radiograms from Ivdel to Maslennikov (who is on the pass leading the search operation): A satirical flyer was found "evening otorten" dated by Dyatlov group February 1.

This radiogram is also not in the case files.

Maslennikov 2nd notebook radiogram from Ivdel on 4 Mar 1959

Only pilot Potyazhenko remembered that he had seen Evening Otorten in the tent.

Most likely he took the searches plan for their operation for Dyatlov group's flyer.

No one else remembered seeing Evening Otorten in a tent.

Judging by the testimonies most likely the satirical flyer went into the backpack with small items gathered around the tent, hauled to the helipad, transported on 3 Mar 1959 to Ivdel, then the items were taken out and Pavlov sent the message noted in Maslennikov’s notebook on 4 Mar 1959.

On that same page it says under 5. Investigation of items is not over.

Protocol inspection of items found at the scene
(Until this moment the search party members had the items randomly put in their backpacks)

Atmanaki witness testimony - page 214 back
All remained undisturbed except for one backpack in which small things were gathered around the tent.
page 215
...everything was packed in a backpack, except for the diary and documents sent to the base camp

E. P. Maslennikov witness testimony
When the inspection was over the tent was dragged to the helipad at a distance of 600-700.

It is believed that after inspection, items from the tent were put back into the tent and all were dragged to the helipad and lifted on 3 Mar 1959.

Why was Evening Otorten typed for the case files and nobody seen the original?

Was it because it was falling apart from humidity?

Could be, but most likely the reason for the retyping of the Evening Otorten is the same for the group diary and the unknown diary that were included in the case file and what that reason is will remain unknown.

This leads us to the question

Where are the diaries now?

 

We are discussing this here because Maslennikov most probably didn’t see “Evening Otorten” but saw the diaries.

He copied some of the entries in his 2nd notebook.

The diaries that the prosecutor took away contained more records.

The group diary ends with Dyatlov’s entry from 31/I, the unknown diary ends on 30/I.

The originals of these two have never been published, only typed copies.

The rest of the diaries were given back to the relatives and eventually ended up in Dyatlov foundation.

Kolmogorova - last entry from 30/II (obviously a typo)
Dubinina - last entry from 28/I
Slobodin - he didn’t really write much
Yudin - last entry from 27.I, he turned back on the 28/I

Atmanaki witness testimony
...everything was packed in a backpack, except for the diary and documents sent to the base camp

Atmanaki witness testimony

Maslennikov 2nd notebook

1. Group diary "In the country of mysterious signs". Unknown diary

Unknown diary

2. New tent construction. Dyatlov group diary

Dyatlov group diary

3. New method of walking - 5 min w/o backpack, rest 10-15 minutes and catch up the group (nonstop method)

31/I - Dyatlov: we came out of the tree line.

Wind is western, penetrating, with a speed similar to the air draft created by a taking off airplane.

I can't even start thinking of setting up a storage.

It's close to 4 we are going down Auspiya river.

Not enough firewood, frail damp firs, started fire with logs, supper in the tent.

Warm.

"It is hard to imagine such a comfort somewhere on the ridge, with a piercing wind, hundreds kilometers away from human settlements.”

Last entry by Dyatlov in the group diary on 31/I

4. 1/II Slobodin - didn't write anything. Slobodin’s diary

Missing documents

Yuri Krivonischneko topos (schematic drawings of the route)

Doroshenko, Zina, Dubinina, uncle Slava Velikyavichus on the sledge, Yudin, Dyatlov, Tibo, Slobodin, and most probably Yuri Krivonischenko in the back drawing topos

Yurka Kri is behind and makes topos of the route. Dyatlov group diary

Diatlov group diary entry for 28/I

We haven’t seen this topos.

Never published.

How was time of death established?

 

• There is a radiogram from 1/III’59 stating that the date of death is established
  The date of the disaster is exactly established to have occurred on the night of February 2nd.

Maslennikov 2nd notebook telegram from 1/III'59

• On 1/III all the bodies found (4) are still on the pass. They will be lifted off on 3/III
• On 1/III the tent and all belongings are still on the pass, they will also be lifted off on 3/III.
• The satirical flyer (dated 1/II) will be found among the items from the tent only on 4/III, which coincides with the fact that on the 3/III the items are lifted off, and on 4/III they are taken out and protocoled in Ivdel.
• There are no entries in any of the known diaries after 31/I

On the basis of what, by 1/III, it was precisely established that disaster occurred on the night of February 2nd?

Monument

 

It is still 3/III, only Krivonischenko, Doroschenko, Dyatlov and Kolmogorova were found.

Maslennikov is planing a monument for the victims.

According to unofficial sources the temporary monument was built in April (when Blinov arrived on 14/IV it was already there) in the area of the helipad on the pass.

Rescuers, Kurikov to the right and the temporary monument drawn by Masslennikov in his 2nd notebook.

The monument was (re)moved when Yakimenko installed the memorial plaque in 1963.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Commander Potyazhenko - article in local newspaper

DYATLOV PASS·ŚRODA, 31 LIPCA 2019·10 MIN

 

Exclusive: man from city of Vladimir was silent for 50 years about how he found the bodies on Dyatlov pass

 

Author: Aleksey Kandalov

Published in PROГОРОД on 12 Feb 2014

Recently, relatives of the hikers that died on "Dyatlov Pass" appealed to the Prosecutor’s Office of the Sverdlovsk Region.

Close family members made a request to open a new investigation.

As they consider, it is impossible to draw an unequivocal conclusion about the causes of death for the whole group.

Today our compatriot Victor Potyazhenko called the Pro Gorod editorial office.

He said that he was living witness to the events on Mount Otorten.

According to him, there are a lot of inaccuracies and inventions in documentaries about what happened.

He wants to tell everything he knows about the events that occurred 55 years ago.

The participant in those events met us at home.

As it turned out, his wife - Margarita Potyazhenko, is also directly related to the incident.

She was a radio operator when it all happened.

Half a century has passed, but the events of that time are still being discussed by experts, various theories are being circulated.

Pensioners confessed: until the last moment they had not told anyone about what they knew about the terrible event.

The mysterious story happened in February 1959.

On the slopes of the mountain, the name of which, translated from the language of the Mansi, sounds like “Don't go there”, under unexplained circumstances, a group of tourists died.

Search teams who found them and forensic medical experts were surprised by what they saw there ...

How it all began

– At that time I served in a squadron in the Northern Urals - I was a flight commander, Victor Potyazhenko recalls.

- On the eve of February 23, we received an order: tomorrow you will go on the AN-2, Yak-12 aircraft, the Mi-4 helicopter to the city of Ivdel. (At that time, however, as now, it was the center for serving sentences of prisoners).

They also added: Commander Gorlak, the Chief of Staff of the Air Force in the Urals District, will fly with you. Unfortunately, I have forgotten his name already.

We prepared the planes, and flew to a given point.

Arrived, landed on a small airfield.

I look around: there is militia everywhere.

Everybody running around, fussing.

Well, I think - maybe someone escaped from prisoners, so they are looking for them now.

Later it turned out that on the night of February 1 and 2 a group of Sverdlovsk students did not get back.

The students went hiking, which was timed to the XXI Congress of the CPSU.

For 16 days, the participants in the trek were to ski no less than 350 km along the north of the Sverdlovsk region and make the ascent to the North Ural mountains Otorten and Oyko-Chakur.

At some pint, they did not reach the final destination of their route.

From the latest reports, the coordinates of the place of possible overnight stay were known.

As it became clear, the military was sent to search for them.

– They gave me an order to fly over and inspect the area from the air, the participant of events continues to recall.

- Of course, there were big doubts that we would find anything from the height.

It was necessary to fly 12 kilometers from Ivdel along the railway.

After that, another 50 kilometers to the mountains, where, after 500-600 meters, an ominous plateau opened up.

The interviewee admitted flying was scary.

Around changeable relief, alternating plateau.

And above the bare, gray landscape - a thick "cap" of clouds. His first landing was in the forest, on a pre-cleared site.

– There was a dense, impassable forest.

The height of some cedars reached 5 meters.

I requested an area for landing - 50 to 50 meters to be cut down.

The square is such that the blades don't touch the branches.

That's where I had to "land".

The second time I had on board the dog handlers with the dogs.

This is where strange things start to happen.

About the strange events

When large service shepherd dogs were tried to be pulled out of the rotary-winged aircraft, they began to resist, to tear from the leashes.

– Search dogs rested paws on the floor.

They literally pulled out of the compartment.

And when the animals were outside, they lowered their ears and tails.

The animals clearly expressed anxiety.

They felt something.

You know, when they were taken back after the searches, they fled aboard.

It was probably possible to walk on them, someone might have come inadvertently - but they didn’t even snap.

Although, on the first day one dog bit my spouse by the leg.

Here, they were obedient, so long as they were not touched, - our interlocutor noted this interesting observation.

How was the tent found

That day, Victor was lucky to find a tent. Everything happened completely by accident.

Canine went into the mountains to search.

The helicopter took off, made a circle and flew towards the base.

After 500 meters, the pilot saw something similar to a tent.

– It was certainly difficult to discern the outlines, the interlocutor confessed.

- When I flew "home" I passed by radio: the object is located directly from the place from which we took off.

There hastily sent a search party on the same evening...

Remembering the scene

And in the morning, our hero was in the scene.

With the dawn, he set off with a new team to the pass.

After some time, a snow-covered tent was found, with a wall cut from the inside.

Everything was left inside, as if that night something made everyone run out without turning back.

– Everything was completely untouched, - he confirmed vis-à-vis.

- Things lay in their places - everyone ran out in what they were.

In the tent were preserved all the products, alcohol, money left.

Inside was a lamp, a sheet of paper was attached with plans for the next day.

Remember?

There was a version that the guys were attacked by runaway convicts.

But the fact that everything was untouched, suggests otherwise.

And it was unlikely that those who escaped could hold out for a long time in freezing cold...

We looked at everything and discussed it.

And then they all went down the steep slope.

In some places, it was all powdered with snow on which we saw tracks of footprints.

They all led down to the valley...

Results from the search

On that day, February 26, the first victims of a mysterious incident were found.

– The body of a man lying in the snow with arms outstretched, - the memory of the pensioner draws terrible images.

- The corpse is all frozen, it was icy.

When we had to carry it, I happen to grab the heel.

And it broke off!

I tried to put it back in place, but where there.

So he left it there, because the body was inconvenient to carry.

Victor's wife, Margarita Potyazhenko added: at that time there were severe frosts.

My husband had to warm the helicopter for two hours in order to prepare it for a flight.

The air temperature sometimes dropped to minus 52 degrees.

The conversation returned to the topic of the terrible find.

Some time after the discovery of the first body, another 3 were found.

They lay in a kind of lowland, near the ascent to the mountain.

An experienced “flyer” remembered broken branches of fir trees, scattered sticks.

So far it remains a mystery what did teh dead need them for.

– Nearby was a trace of a campfire, the snow was smoky.

Means, they kindled a fire.

Of course, maybe they wanted to make flooring, but why?

There are a lot of questions.

The prosecutor with the investigator constantly went aside to whisper, to discuss something.

We decided that the bodies could have been buried by snow.

They decided to search the holes with special probes, - the witness added.

They searched for the rest of the members of Dyatlov group for weeks.

After several more days from the moment of the first "finds", the body of a woman was unearthed, with burnt clothes.

And then, until May, they continued to search for people who were considered missing.

In the middle of the month, they found 3 mutilated corpses with gouged eyes, burns, no tongue ...

What are the versions of what happened?

Victor Vasilyevich and Margarita Ivanovna Potyazhenko

There are a great many theories about what happened on that unfortunate night.

Various versions have been published - from mystical, to natural phenomena.

Among others: bacteriological weapons sprayed over the forest.

But Potyazhenko finds this version amusing.

They reacted with a smile to another version: an American spy entered the ranks of the group, and "cleaned" the witnesses.

– All this is untrue, - the spouses laugh.

- Why test bacteriological weapons over a completely deserted territory!

And speculation about a spy, so it is generally a fairy tale.

We guess what could happen there, but we were silent all the time.

In those days, Margarita worked as a radio operator, received and transmitted urgent radiograms.

She well remembers how one day during the search she heard: a rocket landed on Otorten.

– I remember those exact words, - assures our fellow countrywoman.

- They said that a rocket landed in the mountains.

And then came a refutation.

Nothing like that happen, it just looked like it.

All this, of course, was strange. Moreover, on the night of April 1 and 2 there was an inexplicable event.

What we were told about the strange event

Margaret’s husband, Victor, joined the conversation again.

The man said: that night, when the search continued, a luminous object hung above the soldiers' tent.

– The lieutenant told me then, but I didn't believe it.

I thought he is fooling me on the April 1st.

And everyone said that a luminous "donut" hang above the tent.

The attendant dozed off when the whole neighborhood lit up like during the day.

He's a soldier and shouted: "Oh lads, I overslept, the sun is shining."

He runs out into the street, but this thing hangs over his head, everything is glowing.

Boy starts screaming, wakes everyone up...

Then at three in the morning, we were looking for everyone in the surrounding forests.

Everyone was very scared.

What do our interlocutors think?

The couple are sure that no one will ever tell about the true causes of the tragedy.

They tend to believe in an extraterrestrial trace in the case of the death of the group.

According to them: that night, something inexplicable happened to the mind of an ordinary person.

They become believers on August 23, 1973.

- I saw "them", although if I had said this before, I would have been taken to a psychiatric hospital.

It all happened near the village of Peshino, near Izhevsk.

These "guests" literally floated over the buckwheat field ...

I remember their tall stature, under 3 meters.

I was really scared of course.

As the hostess added later: my husband after this incident didn't come to himself for a long time.

Partially he lost his memory.

But most importantly, in spite of the version in the documentaries, that everyone who faced Otorten's secret died, this didn't.

Our countrymen remember every day when they searched for the 9 young people.

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Commander Potyazhenko - interview

DYATLOV PASS·ŚRODA, 31 LIPCA 2019·18 MIN

 

"The tent of the students was like a swallow's nest"

 

Memories of Commander V. V. Potyazhenko

Published by Maria Piskareva on 5 Mar 2014

Olga Zavadskaya visited on March 4 and 5, 2014 spouses Potyazhenko - Victor Vasilyevich and Margarita Ivanovna.

March 6, Victor Vasilyevich has a birthday.

He is born in 1933.

Olga asked Potyazhenko spouses some questions and informed me about the results of this meeting.

Here is her story:

I was visiting today the spouses Potyazhenko.

They gave me three hours.

Wonderful, simple, cute people!

Victor Vasilyevich himself told everything.

Of course, much of the memory has been erased or altered.

They saw on REN TV a film about Dyatlov group, they called the station but nobody wanted to listen to them.

Margarita Ivanovna said that they spent significant amount of money calling.

They wanted to correct the mistakes.

Victor Vasilyevich and Margarita Ivanovna Potyazhenko

Victor Vasilyevich participated in the search for Dyatlov group from February 24-25 to May 5.

He was the ONLY ONE flywing to the pass, he only changed helicopters, so they can refuel.

"In Ivdel, Colonel Ortyukov commanded my flights, the order was to fly to Otorten."

He doesn’t remember exactly the day when he flew to the pass for the first time, but says it was February 24th or 25th.

Victor Vasilyevich recalls: a white, snow-covered, flat top.

The helicopter landed at the rock remnant, which is in the photo in the newspaper.

All these photos are from his album.

Potyazhenko flew a MI-4 helicopter by route, which he was told - to Mount Otorten.

Along Lozva.

The top of the mountain was a bare snow plateau.

And he said that it was creepy to fly in that area.

In an emergency, he said, we would not have found it.

Photos pertinent to the search on the pass: Photo 1 Photo 2 Photo 3

Victor Potyazhenko claims that it was he who discovered the tent on the slope during flying over the pass, together with Ortyukov.

A small group of comrades in black sheepskin coats were on the ground, with a small tent already pitched in the forest i.e. there were people present already.

It can be assumed that Ortyukov was in the dark about the big game, started by someone...

Victor Potyazhenko was then a flight commander.

Following orders they flew to Ivdel on the 1st helicopter and Yak-12 aircraft.

On the plane Gorlachenko circled the area to survey the area for search to check whether helicopters could fly there.

And flew back to Sverdlovsk.

The orders where to fly gave Ortyukov.

He flew by helicopter to Otorten.

And they sat on the pass at the boot rock.

The Yak-12 with General Gorlachenko flew back to Sverdlovsk.

He himself then flew to the search party, brought supplies: food..., people brought there and back.

There were 4 people in the crew: technician, navigator...

Pilot Patrushev, he did not know.

But there BEFORE the students there were already a lot of people.

On the first arrival they brought a radio station (weighs 20 kg), the next day - a big stove.

The day after they discovered the tent from the air, they flew in with the investigator and prosecutor, with Ortyukov.

And the next day, the bodies were found.

Victor Vasilyevich says that he didn’t see any students at first, only the military.

And on the first flight, besides the investigator, were flying people in black fur coats.

The helicopter could take on board up to 12 people (max - 16).

He flew to the pass alone, only changed helicopters.

Victor Vasilyevich approached the tent, the tent was not heavily covered with snow.

The tent itself was not tilted, with a slight imclination, the sidewall was cut...

He looked through the entrance and saw the combat leaflet attached near the entrance ...

The tent was not collapsed, covered with snow only from the side of the slope.

On the opposite side there were cuts.

You could could see inside the tent.

I asked today how was the combat leaflet attached?

He said literally the following: "As if wetted and glued to the tent, and the water froze."

It was written: Combat leaflet, below: "Evening Otorten", and lower on two halves - on one: what they did today, on the other: tasks for tomorrow.

About the flashlight he didn't say anything.

I asked twice about the flashlight.

He said: "a flashlight, a light bulb...", and kept thinking.

Victor Vasilyevich said that he did not correspond with journalist G.K. Grigoriev.

We flew to the pass without refueling.

The airfield is 3 km from Ivdel.

Apparently, he confuses the mileage.

It seems to him that they flew quickly.

If he had been given a normal aeronautical map it's 5 km, he would have shown everything.

But the wife says to fly is more than an hour.

She herself did not participate in the search.

She was a radio operator in Ivdel.

One helicopter from Kaunas was called in to help!

"The presumption was that there would be a lot of work and I could not do it alone".

The pilot was one - Potyazhenko.

Victor Vasilyevich claims that he lifted 3 bodies in early March.

He does not remember the rest.

He helped to load them into the helicopter, the corpses were clean, completely frozen (February)

The blades of a helicopter span 21 m, total length 32m.

In the newspaper article the heading is inaccurate - Victor Vasilyevich did not find the dead bodies.

Only the tent on the slope, "a tent like a swallow's nest"...

Victor Vasilyevich flew to visit the Mansi Stepan Kurikov with him on the search with the permission of Colonel Ortyukov.

Margarita Ivanovna told how she was on duty (radio operator in the Ural district). On radar - a stranger aircraft ....

"It was May 1, 1960.

It is not pertinent to the search ”- remarks V. V. Potyazhenko.

Margarita Ivanovna flew to the slope only once, out of curiosity.

A dog bit her in Ivdel.

Apparently, the dog didn’t like something, and slightly bit Margaret Ivanovna’s foot.

Victor Vasilyevich wanted to say that there were very clever dogs on the slope.

And, by the way, the spouses don't find"extraterrestrial trace" in the death of the group.

V. V. said that in May he did not refuse to carry bodies to Sverdlovsk, since only there was a requirement to put them in metal containers.

No one threatened him with a pistol (according to Askinadzi - ed. note).

He didn't have a gun either. In the photo* with the holster it is not him.

Again, there was no gun.

* Olga Zavadskaya had with her this photo.

She asked him if he was the man to the right with the holster. V. V. said no.

Later on we speculate that he might be the man on the left with the USSR Air Force pilot cap with wings insignia, but this is not confirmed.

Margarita Ivanovna was not his wife at that time, they married a year later.

He took her from Ivdel. In 1959 she worked at the airfield in Ivdel as radio operator.

They only requested weather reports from the pass.

And there is a radiogram asking about a meteorocket.

Margarita Ivanovna claims that the Patrushev was not allowed to fly to the pass, he did not fly there.

It is interesting that V. V. does not remember any students.

That he transported only a soldier.

He did not dropped off anyone at Otorten...

He was the flight commander of the rescue team.

Victor Vasilyevich himself said that it was very difficult for a helicopter to fly there.

"It is even harder than even in the Caucasus mountains..."

Many of V.V. Potyazhenko's answers raised new questions, it was necessary to clarify them one by one, when and with whom Victor Vasilyevich flew to the pass for the first time.

Olga gave me the phone number of the spouses Potyazhenko, and I called them.

Victor Vasilyevich answered all the questions, we talked for a long time, the telephone connection was breaking, but I dialed his number again and again until I found out all the incomprehensible moments for me.

Many thanks to Victor Vasilyevich for this conversation, for the kindness with which he treated me.

Our conversations followed the questions.

– Victor Vasilyevich, the article in the local newspaper has caused a great debate on the Internet.

I myself did not understand a lot. Please, let's step through each vague point.

First question: You received an order to fly to the pass.

Where were you at this time?

– Where I served.

Aramil.

– You got to the helicopter and flew directly to the search area as ordered?

– We flew to Ivdel.

From there Gorlachenko on a plane flew over the area for search.

I looked whether everything was normal there, safe for our helicopters to fly.

He told me to stay behind for the main (search - ed. note), get settled, and he flew away to Sverdlovsk.

– You flew on February 23?

– We flew on February 24 since the orders were military aircraft not to fly on holidays.

– Who flew with you on your first flight to the search area?

– Colonel Ortyukov, an investigator, someone else from the investigators, several people in black fur coats and dog handlers with dogs.

The first flight: looked where to land, how to land.

A military camp was already set up at Mount Otorten.

They cut a hole for me. I looked ...

I can't land.

– Where did you fly, as the area was called?

– I don't remember the names.

Otorten, I did not know any other mountains, I must say.

I call it the "Otorten mountain region".

There was already a camp, a small tent.

They cut a site in a forest measuring 30 by 30, but I have a helicopter blade size of 32 meters; I said I would not land down.

Landed on the rock remnant.

... they unloaded a large stove and a large army tent.

They brought them a radio station.

I asked them to cut an area at least 50 by 50m and cut a 500m passage to it.

When they were ready, I landed on this site only once.

The cargo was unloaded while hovering.

After that I brought pilots to learn how to land in this well.

We trained there.

– What kind of radio station?

– Such a simple box.

You pick up the handset and talk.

Like a phone.

– The men in black fur coats*, who do you think they were?

Military army or military from Ivdellag?

Were they armed?

*At that time there were two types of fur coats used in the military made from sheepskin: guard's coat and officer's coat, they both were made in light and dark color.

Here in an example of a man wearing black officer's coat on the pass.

Looking at the search photos from 1959 I was pondering how come Potyazhenko made a note of the black and not the lighter color sheepskin coats like the ones marked with purple arrows in this photo.

The red arrow is same man from the previous photo.

It might be the that the purple ones are not sheepskin but made from felt i.e. on the collar lapel of a fur coat you can see fur.

And there is no fur on the lapel of an overcoat.

Could be that Potyazhenko was impressed only by the more expensive sheepskin officer's coats.

– These were from Ivdellag*.

Men in black fur coats came, I could not see if they were carrying weapons.

They immediately went into the forest.

*The prevailing opinion is that a similar dark coat could be worn by military railway workers (Lt.Col. Shestopalov sappers) or officers of the Ivdellag.

The soldiers of Ivdellag wore a green (khaki) uniforms sheepskin coats (тулуп), and quilted jackets (ватник).

– How many dogs?

– Two dogs, dogs were with dog handlers.

Tails between their legs.

They did not want to leave the helicopter.

Later, dog handlers told me that the dogs felt in advance when the helicopter arrived, they were already preparing, waiting.

They were afraid that they would be left there.

– How did you find the tent?

– When soared, on acceleration speed and climb; I look - below something looks like a tent.

Ortyukov pointed - see!

He waved his head..

Said, we'll see tomorrow.

We flew to Ivdel, he was connected by radio to a group in the woods, something 500-700 meters from them on the slope flashed something like a tent.

Order: "Do not touch it!"

The next day we flew again in the morning.

– Who flew with you?

– Colonel Ortyukov, some investigator and their comrade from the leadership, probably the prosecutor.

– The investigator and the prosecutor were about what age?

Young?

– I was 25 years old.

They were under 40 years old.

Like Ortyukov, 35-40 years old.

We flew in, landed, went along the mountain and saw the tent.

From the tent down went a steep descent.

The soldiers told Ortyukov that three bodies had been found there.

The bodies lay apart at some distance.

The first body lay 250 meters from the tent.

The investigator and the prosecutor went to investigate, they walked for 3-4 hours.

I waited for the bodies to be found.

– You yourself helped carry the body from the slope to the helicopter?

– Not.

I waited for the bodies to be brought and only helped to load these bodies into the helicopter.

– Did you see students on the slope?

– Not.

I did not see any students at all.

In this photo from V. Potyazhenko's album, we can see search members, it is not clear if they are students.

Although we can't figure out yet who the people on the photo are, we had to publish it.

– Was there a girl among these bodies?

– I do not remember.

They were stripped and undressed.

– Stripped to the naked body?

– I do not remember.

Without shoes and without outerwear.

– How they put the bodies in a helicopter, on a fir tree btanches, on a tarpaulin.

Covered with sheet?

– No, just put the body without anything on the floor, on top of each other.

The cold was under 50.

The bodies rang like glass.

– How many bodies did you personally transport?

– All of them.

All 9 bodies.

They find them, order me to fly.

I fly and take the body.

How many times do not remember.

– You brought a group of students to the slope?

– No, I only brought supplies, took away bodies.

– Did you bring woman expert on the slope?

– No.

I did not bring women and did not see any there.

Once brought my future spouse illegally on the pass, to see.

She worked as a radio operator in Ivdel.

– This is her that the dog bit on the slope?

– Not.

In a room at the Ivdel airport.

And she did not bite, but simply grab her foot with its teeth as if the dog was gonna bite her.

Something was not of the dog's liking.

– Tent.

You said you looked into the tent.

How?

Through the entrance, through the incision?

– Through the cut.

It was almost all open.

Like a torn rag.

I raised a cut and looked.

– What did you see in the tent?

– There was no order in the tent.

They were changing their clothes in the corners.

One could see things in groups, frozen pieces of bread lay around, it seems there was a can of meat.

At the entrance I saw a piece of paper.

Named Combat Leaflet.

I was surprised, just like in the army - a combat sheet.

– How was it located in the tent, attached to a wall or lying around?

– I do not remember exactly.

It seems to me that he was somehow attached to the wall of the tent.

Wetted whether with tea, or saliva - and frozen.

– Were there drawings in this combat sheet?

What was written there?

Tell in detail about this leaflet.

– There were no drawings.

I did not read what was in it.

I remembered that it was written "Tasks for tomorrow."

They wrote with pencil.

It was obvious that they wrote in field conditions.

Pencil in some places broke through the paper.

The handwriting was so uneven.

As if written on a knee.

– Did you see lamp in the tent?

– Not.

I told reporters that I remember a flashlight with a light bulb.

– Why did you say that the tent was like a swallow's nest?

– I didn't say that.

This is how the military told Ortyukov when they went after his message on the radio and found a tent.

It was stuck to the mountain, like a swallow's nest.

Then I heard the words of one specialist on the slope that the tent was set up incorrectly, that this is not how you pitch a tent.

– Did you see a stove in the tent?

– No, I didn't.

– Did you see any cut stick in the tent?

– Stick?

No, I didn't.

I don't remember.

– Has it been trampled around the tent?

– No, it was not.

There were no footprints near the tent and from the tent.

We saw the tracks below the tent, they went down and were interrupted.

Because of the terrain.

There is such a terrain - 5 meters of snow, then bare rocks, then snow, then again stones, then snow again.

– Were the items been crumpled?

Covered with snow?

Were there boots in the tent or at the tent?

Did any belongings lay around the tent?

– There were no items in the tent.

Everything in the tent was covered with snow.

Now I wondered if there was snow in the tent...

It must have been, but I did not see it...

I don't remember.

Ski poles protruded from the snow by about 8 cm. (note: here V.V. said something about the sun, and the wind, and the holes at the tent, but I didn't catch it, didn't understand and did not write it down specifically)

– Did you eavesdrop what were the investigator and the prosecutor talking about?

– No, all the conversations were secret from everyone.

They went and looked.

Negotiated with each other, they talked a lot about something among themselves.

The investigator observed all the tracks.

– The first versions were about murder.

Didn't they talk about it?

– Yes, at first they talked about murder that the convicts escaped and killed them.

Then about Mansi.

But Mansi were so downtrodden.

It was painful to look at them.

Miserable.

You can tell man from woman.

Poor.

– Did you see any chum on the slope?

– Not.

There were no chums there.

There was nothing at all, deaf taiga and mountains.

– One comrade told that the pilots changed alcohol for furs and gold, did you see this?

– I do not know, I have not seen this. In general, I flew alone and did not see other helicopters.

At the airfield in Ivdel, two people were important to me - dispatcher Ponomarev or Pankratov, I don’t remember already.

And the chief meteorological service.

Didn't speak to anybody else.

Well, to Ortyukov of course.

– Did Ortyukov live in the camp?

– No.

He flew with me all the time.

Flew in and out.

He stayed in the city.

– What was your route?

Where did they stop?

Did you touch down in Vizhay?

– No.

I flew from Aramil to Ivdel at all time - and to the slope.

He landed next to the rock remnant.

– Did you see in Ivdel civil aviation?

– No.

I saw there MI-1, their airfield was small.

– How many helicopters did you have?

– Three.

I flew on different, for about ten days.

I flew on one from Ivdel to Aramil for maintenance work, and returned on another.

Crew of 3 people.

– What kind of helicopter came from Kaunas?

– It was at the beginning, they thought that I won't cope alone.

Therefore, an additional helicopter was sent from Lithuania.

But the pilot looked at the slope and said I can't fly there.

Fly home, then.

I couldn't make him.

– You flew to visit Kurikov?

– Yes.

Together with Ortyukov.

The Soviet government built Stepan Kurikov a two-story house.

He arranged receptions there.

And in the courtyard he had a real chum.

– Did you see deer on the slope?

– What are you talking about.

There was nothing around.

The slope was like that, you walk 5 meters - snow, then bare rocks, this is how strong the wind was, then snow again...

There were many deer in Suevat Paul.

– Have you known journalist G.K. Grigoriev?

– Not.

I did not know him.

– Did you know such pilots as Karpushin and Patrushev?

– I heard about them only on TV.

My wife worked as a radio operator in Ivdel at the airfield, she sometimes heard the name of Patrushev on radio communications.

– What did you mean when you said "broken branches of fir trees, scattered sticks"?

– I saw the remains of a campfire in the woods, this is what I was talking about.

– Do you know the name of Maslennikov?

– No, I have not heard of him

– On the photo (which was shown to Olga Zavadskaya), there is a man with a holster...

– I did not fly with a weapon.

Although they gave us weapons, we did not wear them.

After the search was over we brought it and handed back in Sverdlovsk.

– Victor Vasilyevich, what was not right in that very first article about you in the local newspaper?

How did they find you?

– The title needs to be fixed.

I did not find the bodies and did not see them on the ground.

Also, I did not say anything about aliens.

I just told what a military man told me (about a luminous "donut") and told something that happened to me.

About the figures.

I do not associate the cause of the death of the students with aliens.

And at that time we did not know such a word

. They did not even think about UFOs.

This started later, all the talk about UFOs.

– Did you see any traces of an explosion on the ground when you flew in that area?

– No.

I haven't seen anything like that.

The interview in Russian

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dyatlov Pass 20 Feb 2016 photo by Alexey B

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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So, what (or who) killed them?

 

RT walks through final steps of doomed Dyatlov Pass hikers (VIDEO)

 

https://www.rt.com/russia/465653-dyatlov-pass-documentary-investigation/?fbclid=IwAR1AWRsPkyGm4uNlPVoET1D23sd9pEOzN72l5m0Ux0EaYoIuvkBgHZS5uBo

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Mystery of the fireballs

DYATLOV PASS·ŚRODA, 7 SIERPNIA 2019·

L. Ivanov, newspaper "Leninskiy Put", Kustanay, 22 and 24 November 1990

We are beginning to get used to the fact that some newspapers, in the pursuit of sensation, often publish unverified, or even completely inaccurate information.

I was interested in the publication in the Leninsky Put about UFOs according to the American press (Leninskiy Put №210 from October 30, 1990).

It was precisely the reliability that interested me, since they rightly write that the official authorities often ignore the obvious facts of the appearance of UFOs.

This is true.

And I would like to tell you how this is done here.

Thirty years ago, I myself had to officially deal with this problem, with the only difference that and in my case there were very tragic circumstances.

Everything that I will tell you is confirmed by official documents stored today in a criminal case in the State Archives of the Sverdlovsk Region.

For this reason, I will not change either the names of the characters or the dates of the incident.

There will be no copyright speculation in my information, it was an absolutely documentary fact published thirty years later at the initiative of the editorial board of the Sverdlovsk newspaper "Uralskiy Rabochiy" in 1990.

One afternoon, in April this year, a telephone rang in my apartment.

My interlocutor at the other end of the line, a correspondent for the newspaper Uralsky Rabochiy - Bogomolov, asked for permission to fly from Sverdlovsk to clarify the details of a delicate matter.

I agreed.

And so we sat in my apartment until midnight, and I answered questions about the affairs of long gone days.

What interested the public of Sverdlovsk?

The Ural Polytechnic Institute has a tourclub named after Igor Dyatlov, who died in an expedition with a group of UPI students, and in Sverdlovsk at Mihailovsky cemetery, there is a monument to nine students of UPI who died in one of the expeditions to the Polar Urals in 1959.

But no one knew the reason for the death of such a large group of hikers, because the dead were buried in closed coffins and there was no information on this case.

Thirty years have passed since then. But students are persistent people, they continued to search.

It turned out that Perestroika also touched the special vaults, or simply put: in the vaults from top secret archives the clasified stamp was removed, including one criminal case that was investigated in 1959.

Students - members of the club got acquainted with the materials of this case and with the secret packages stored in the case, and were extremely perplexed, because the official version of the death of a group of tourists announced then had nothing to do with the data that they found in a declassified criminal case.

Students began to look for people who knew anything about this incident, but could not find a single one.

And then they correctly decided that it was necessary to look for a prosecutor or investigator who was investigating this case.

In his book "Confession on a given topic", B. N. Yeltsin writes that even after graduating from the institute in 1956 he often went on hiking trips with his comrades.

At that time, about which Boris Nikolaevich writes, difficult trips to the Subpolar Urals, or as they were classified, of the highest (third) category of difficulty, were a favorite form of youth entertainment - they brought up courage, valor, a sense of friendship, up to self-sacrifice.

That was exactly the case.

At the end of January 1959, a group of hikers skiers from among the students and graduates of the UPI (two girls and seven men) went on a hike declared as a hike of category 3 difficulty in order to traverse the peaks (to go along them) of the Polar Urals with ascend to Mount Otorten , which is located north of Ivdel, in the upper sources of Auspiya river, a tributary of Lozva.

In conditions of very complicated meteorological conditions (blizzard, severe frost), skiers were late with climbing the mountain, but nevertheless, despite adverse weather and dying daylight, they decided to end the ascent, pitch a tent and spend the night at the slope, and in the morning to continue to the summit.

When the tent was pitched and the hikers went in for the night, some force threw them all barely clad out of the tent and scattered around the valley.

All hikers died.

With the help of sappers and student volunteers, with the assistance of Ural Air Force aviation, from February to May they searched for the dead.

They were found at different times in a radius of one and a half kilometers from the place of their last campsite, transported to Sverdlovsk and buried here.

That's all that was known to relatives and the public of Sverdlovsk.

Everyone was told that hikers were in an extreme situation and froze.

However, that was not true.

The true causes of the deaths were hidden from the people, and only a few knew these reasons: the former first secretary of the regional committee A. P. Kirilenko, the second secretary of the regional committee A. F. Eshtokin, the regional prosecutor N. I. Klimov and the author of these lines, who were investigating the case.

Today, neither Kirilenko, nor Eshtokn, nor Klimov are alive.

Events developed as follows.

On January 31, 1959, a group of hikers led by experienced leader Igor Dyatlov, having set up labaz (cache - ed. note) for food supplies in the valley of Auspiya river, began climbing to the top of Otorten.

According to the route schedule, Dyatlov should have arrived at a checkpoint in the village of Vizhay on February 12 and send a telegram to the Sverdlovsk Sports Committee about the end of the trip.

But the group didn't show up ate the expected deadline in Vizhay.

There was a tenth hiker that returned in Vizhay from the trek earlier due to illness, and he was the one who set off the alarm. *

* Yudin didn't raise any alarm, Blinov did. Organization of the Search (case files p. 36)

The Executive Committee of the Regional Council immediately created a rescue group with the participation of sapper soldiers and aviation, as well as volunteer hikers.

The general leadership was led by the master of sports in hiking, E. P. Maslennikov, and the investigation was entrusted to me.

We flew by air to Ivdel, and from there by military helicopters to the taiga.

We were provided with experienced rangers of the forced labor camp (Ivdellag) and Mansi hunters.

As a criminal prosecutor, I had to join the investigation or lead the investigation in the most complex cases.

Apparently, this circumstance, as well as the past front-line service in the airborne troops, played the main role.

So I ended up in an impenetrable Ural taiga in a tarpaulin tent in the most severe winter time from February to May.

I do not set as my goal to talk about how the search went, how the investigation went.

All this is extremely interesting and instructive, but the newspaper area is not unlimited.

To some extent, of course, with great speculation and fiction, this is described in the book of the participant of our expedition Boris Yarovoy, "The Highest Degree of Difficulty," which was published 20 years ago in Sverdlovsk.

I just want, as promised at the beginning of the article, to talk about mysterious phenomena that occasionally appear on planet Earth and which no one can still explain.

When we landed in the taiga, and then went skiing to Mt Otorten, we literally found and dug up the hikers tent covered with snow at the very top.

Inspection of the tent showed that the outer clothing of the hikers - jackets and trousers - remained intact inside; as well as backpacks with all their belongings.

It is known that hikers, even in winter, set for a night in a tent, take off their outer clothing.

Incidentally, we did this in our tent, although the temperature in it never rose above minus four degrees.

The presence of all clothes and literally all belongings in the tent, including diaries, cameras, products, indicated that people left the tent suddenly.

Later, I established that the two long cuts on the tent through which people flee were made with a knife from the inside.

There was not a single drop of blood in or near the tent, which indicated that all the hikers left the tent without bodily harm.

The latter circumstance will be very important in the future.

From the tent, from the mountain to the valley, sometimes there were eight, sometimes nine tracks of footprints.

In mountains with supercooled snow, traces are not visible, but rather look like columns, since the footprints are compacted under the snow, and are blown around the track.

The presence of nine sets of footprints confirmed that all the hikers walked on their own, nobody carried anyone.

But then a mystery happened.

One and a half kilometers from the tent, in the river valley, near the old cedar, the hikers after fleeing from the tent, made a fire and here they began to die one by one.

Based on the developed films shot by the hikers before the night, taking into account the density of negatives, the sensitivity of the film (since the containers were preserved), the aperture settings and shutter speed on the cameras, I managed to "tie" the frames with the time of shooting and get more information, but this did not answer the main question: what was the reason for the flight of the hikers from the tent.

When investigating cases, no detail is small: investigators have the motto: attention to little things!

Near the tent, a natural trace was discovered that one man went out to relief himslef.

He came out barefoot, in woolen socks only ("for a moment").

Then this trace of shoeless feet is traced down into the valley.

There was every reason to build the version that it was this person who raised the alarm and he himself did not have time to put on shoes.

So, there was some terrible force that not only frightened him, but all the others, forcing them to leave the tent in emergency and seek refuge below, in the taiga.

To find this force or at least get closer to it was the task of my investigation.

February 26, 1959 below, at the edge of the taiga, we found the remains of a small fire and here we found the bodies of the hikers Doroshenko and Krivonischenko naked to underwear.

Then, in the direction of the tent, the body of Igor Dyatlov was discovered, not far from him two more - Slobodin and Kolmogorova.

Without detailing, I will say that the last three were the most physically strong and strong-willed personalities, they crawled from the campfire to the tent for clothes - this was quite obvious from their positions.

A subsequent autopsy showed that these three courageous people died from hypothermia - they froze, although they were better dressed than the others.

Already in May, near where was the fire, under a five-meter layer of snow, we found the dead Dubinina, Zolotaryov, Thibeaux-Brignolle and Kolevatov.

On external examination of their bodies there were no injuries.

The sensation came later when in the Sverdlovsk morgue, we performed an autopsy of these corpses.

Dubinina, Thibeaux-Brignolle and Zolotaryov had extensive, completely incompatible with life physical injuries.

For Lyuda Dubinina, for example, 2, 3, 4, 5 ribs were broken on the right and 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 on the left.

One fragment of the rib even penetrated the heart.

On Zolotaryov 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ribs were broken.

And all this without visible external injuries.

Such damage usually happens when a person is struck with a large force, for example, by car at high speed.

But such damage cannot be obtained from falling from a height of one's own body.

In the vicinity of Mt Otorten and the surrounding area there were boulders and stones of various configurations covered with snow, but they were not in the way of the hikers (remember there were footprints), and of course these stones were not thrown at the hikers.

There were no external bruises.

Consequently, there was a directed force that selectively acted on individuals, excluding others.

True, there were some circumstances about which I want to say.

When already in May we examined the scene of the incident with E. Maslennikov * * we found that some young trees on the forest tree line have traces of burning, but they are not in concentric shape or any other system.

There was no epicenter.

This once again confirmed a source of heat ray or completely unknown to us energy acting selectively - the snow was not melted, the trees were not damaged.

It seemed like when the hikers walked on their feet more than five hundred meters down from the mountain, someone dealt with some of them as direct targets.

* * Maslennikov came back from the pass in March. Maslennikov 2nd notebook
He was not part of the search in May as Ivanov claims.

Now there is much talk about the 50s, only to place responsibility for the past on someone.

In that period of time there was strict, I would say, unconditional discipline, especially in the work of law enforcement agencies.

There was no Beria, but his legacy was alive, and just now we are barely parting with it.

When, together with the regional prosecutor, I reported the initial data to the first secretary of the regional party committee, L. P. Kirilenko, he gave a clear command - all the work should be classified and not a single word of information should be leaked.

Kirilenko ordered the hikers to be buried in closed coffins and the relatives to be told that they died from hypothermia.

Khrushchev was informed about the event at the very beginning, and the latter, as it is known from the publication of one of the participants in the search party, the correspondent of the newspaper, spoke out against any reports on this issue, until all the hikers were found and full investigation is carried out.

And when they found the rest of the bodies and revealed such details about which I spoke above, now Kirilenko did not inform Khrushchev.

And the matter on such a high level died out by itself.

All appeals of relatives were swept under the rug.

Such was the order in the country then, and it wasn't up to us to change it.

The fact is that when the investigation was underway, a tiny note appeared in the Tagil Worker newspaper, during the period when the students were on Mt Otorten, a fireball was seen in the sky of Nizhniy Tagil, or, as they say now, an unidentified flying object.

This luminous object moved silently towards the northern peaks of the Ural Mountains.

The author of the article asked: what could it be?

For the publication of such a note, the editor of the newspaper was penalized, and I suggested that the regional committee doesn't take this topic any further.

The second secretary of the regional party committee A. F. Yestokin took control over my investigation.

At that time, we still knew very little about unidentified flying objects, we did not know about radiation either.

The ban on these topics was caused by the possibility of even accidentally deciphering information about missile and nuclear technology, the development of which at that time was really just beginning, and in the world there were times called the "Cold War".

But I couldn't just drop the investigation, I’m a professional criminalist and I have to find a clue.

I nevertheless decided, despite the ban, to continue working on this case maintaining the highest degree of secrecy, because other versions, including criminal intend, animals attacks, a fall during a hurricane, etc., were excluded by the evidence.

It was clear to me in what sequence did they die - all this from thorough study of the bodies, the clothes, other data.

All that remained was the sky and its contents - energy unknown to us, which turned out to be higher than human forces.

Having conspired with scientists of the UFAN (Ural branch of the USSR Academy of Sciences), I conducted very extensive research on clothes and individual organs of the deceased for "radiation".

And for comparison, we took clothes and internal organs of people who died in car accidents or who died a natural death.

The results were amazing.

For non-experts, the results of the analysis will not say anything, and I will only say these: the brown sweater of one of the hikers who had bodily injuries - gave 9900 decays per minute, and after washing the sample - 5200 decays, that is, these data indicate the presence of radioactive "dust" which was washed away.

I must say that before the discovery of these corpses, they were intensively washed by melting water under the snow - entire rivers flowed there.

Consequently, the radiation "dust" contamination at the time of the death of the hikers was much higher.

As a prosecutor who at that time had to deal with some secret defense issues, I rejected the version of the atomic weapon test in this zone.

It was then that I began to closely engage in "fireballs."

I interrogated many eyewitnesses of overflight, hovering and, quite simply, visits of unidentified flying objects in the Subpolar Urals.

Incidentally, UFO's i.e. unidentified flying objects are often associated with aliens.

I do not agree with this. UFOs need to be understood as unidentified flying objects, and only so.

Many data suggest that these can be clots of energy that are not understood by modern people and unexplained by modern data of science and technology, affecting animate and inanimate nature encountered in their path.

Apparently, we met with one of them.

Next I will quote from my interrogations and documents.

I said above that they are stored in the archive.

Technician meteorologist Tokareva - told me:

"On February 17 at 6 h. 50 m. local time in the sky appeared not unnatural phenomenon.

Moving star with a tail.

The tail looked like dense cirrus clouds.

Then the star was freed from the tail, became brighter than the stars and flew away.

It gradually began to swell, forming a large ball, enveloped in a haze.

Then inside this ball the star caught fire, from which first a crescent was formed, then a small ball formed, not so bright.

The big ball gradually began to fade, became like a blurry spot.

At 7 h. 05 m. it disappeared altogether.

A star moved from the south to the northeast."

Is it necessary to add to this that Tokareva’s observation of the sky was part of her professional duties.

And that at this time the comet region did not visit the comet.

This ball of fire was observed in the Ivdel region by serviceman A. Savkin, who was also questioned:

"On February 17, 1959, at 6:40 in the morning, while on duty on the south side, a ball of bright white light appeared that periodically enveloped in cloud white dense fog inside this cloud was a bright-luminous point the size of a star.

Moving towards the north direction the ball was visible for 8-10 minutes."

It was already a matter of technology - to find other people who, at night in the evenings in January-February 1959, were not sleeping, but were on duty out in the open.

Now it’s not a secret for anyone that Ivdel at that time it was a solid "archipelago" of camp sites forming Ivdellag, which was guarded around the clock.

The testimonies of Novikov, Avenburg, Malik were exactly the same.

The same ball was seen on March 31.

We saw a similar ball on the night of the death of the hikers, that is, from the first to the second of February, students-hikers of the Geological Faculty of the Pedagogical Institute.

Witness G. Atamanaki - saw this ball over Otorten on the night of the 1st of February.

The study of the case now fully convinces, and even then I stuck to the version of the death of student hikers from exposure to an unknown flying object.

Based on the evidence gathered, the role of UFOs in this tragedy was quite obvious.

Correspondent Bogomolov, whom I gave an interview, in his publication claims that the criminal prosecutor Ivanov at that time clearly highlighted: the cause of the deaths was an unidentified object, although he encoded it in the final document with the words "force majeure".

To the correspondent’s question, have I changed my view of the causes of death of the hikers over these thirty years, I replied that I only changed my view of the impact technique.

If earlier I believed that the ball exploded, releasing completely unknown, but radioactive energy, now I believe that the action of the energy from the ball was selective, it was aimed only at three people.

When I reported to A. F. Yeshtokin about my findings - fireballs, radioactivity, he gave a completely categorical order: to classify everything, to seal everything up, to hand it over to the special unit and forget about it.

Needless to say that all this was exactly done?

It may seem strange to the current reader: what was secret about this? But remember that just recently, before these events, the so-called radioactive "exhaust" occurred in Kyshtym.

Now, much has been said about him, even in print, but no one would dare to say something like that at that time!

But in the infection zone in the Kyshtym region, huge decontamination works were carried out, and, despite this, only a few knew about everything, and the onew that knew, were silent.

Older people may recall what it was like: just recently launched an artificial Earth satellite, it announced trials of atomic and then hydrogen weapons (as it was called then), and many associated these mysterious phenomena, including unidentified flying objects with military tests, but investigative actions indicated that the case of Dyatlov group had nothing to do with military tests.

Now that everyone knows everything about the testing ranges and methods of testing nuclear weapons, our version of the deaths that arose at that time has received even more confirmation.

So that the current generation does not judge us very strictly for our work, I’ll say that even today, when eyewitnesses are still alive, they don’t tell the whole truth.

I recently read in the central press that during the destruction of the reconnaissance plane Powers near Sverdlovsk, a Soviet aircraft led by pilot Safronov was also shot down.

About this writes the former battery commander, who shot down both aircraft, then Major Voronov.

But after all, about the fact that two aircraft were shot down, including ours, even then thousands of people knew.

Thousands of people saw our fighter crash into the ground near the city of Degtyarsk, not far from Pervouralsk, but for thirty years our press has not written anything about this.

Like many others, I saw how one missile went first, and then a second, how the shot down planes dispersed in different directions - one towards Sysert (Powers), the second - in the opposite direction towards Revda (our plane).

But they published about this only after so many years.

For forty years of work in the prosecutor’s office, and most of this time I was allowed to use super-secret information, I still can’t understand why people had to lie?

I do not want to justify my actions to classify events with fireballs and the death of a large group of people.

I asked the correspondent to publish my apologies to the relatives of the victims for distorting the truth, to hide the truth from them, and since there were no places for this in the four issues of the newspaper, I bring this publication to the families of the victims, especially to appologize to the relatives of Dubinina, Thibeaux-Brignolle and Zolotaryov.

At one time, I tried to do everything I could, but at the time, as the lawyers say, there was an "irresistible force" in the country, it became possible to defeat it only now.

And again about the fireballs.

They were and still are. It is only necessary not to hush up their appearance, but to deeply understand their nature.

The vast majority of teh witnesses that I met talk about the peaceful nature of their behavior, but, as you see, there are also tragic exceptions.

Someone needed to frighten or punish people, or show their strength, and they did this, killing three people.

I know all the details of this incident and I can say that only those who were in these balls know more about me than these circumstances.

And whether there were "people" there and whether they are always there - no one knows yet.

In conclusion.

What attracted young people to such dangerous expeditions?

What power drove these people?

Reading the story of B. I. Yeltsin about treks in the Northern Urals and comparing its current nature, I trace this direct connection: real people are formed in such extreme situations.

Courage, valor, strenght, will, nobility - all this is the result of a long, from a young age, formation of character, nature.

After all, when in February we came to the big cedar tree, near which the hikers tried to make a fire and carefully examined and compared everything, we were struck by the courage and stamina of the young people who fought for their lives and the lives of their comrades.

Imagine a tree trunk 50-60 cm thick.

Hikers took turns climbing this tree to break off branches for a fire (they made a fire).

On the bark of the tree there were frozen (it’s scary to even say it!) their skin of their inner thighs and scraps of underwear.

All this covered the cedar bark.

During excavations in May, we found the corpses of Lyuda Dubinina and the others.

They died first from terrible internal injuries, but they were not abandoned.

They were carried away from the fire, carefully laid.

Even the dead men themselves took care of the dead.

This is how real people behave.

We have something to take from the past, and how petty the behavior of other people now seems, who cannot even overcome ordinary difficulties.

But what about the astronauts of the fireballs?

If they exist, then sooner or later they will manifest themselves, and circumstances will bring them to our civilization.

I have no doubt about that.

"Leninskiy Put", Kustanay, №22 November 1990

"Leninskiy Put", Kustanay, №24 November 1990

Frame from movie "Mystery of the mountain of the dead" (2013)

Frame from movie "Mystery of the mountain of the dead" (2013)

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I will be appearing on the Discovery Channel program Expedition Unknown as an expert on Dyatlov Pass, the subject of a new episode 'Mystery of Dead Mountain' premiering in the US Wednesday, August 28th at 9PM EST.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This season, Josh Gates connects with innovative researchers and uses cutting-edge technology to tackle history’s most challenging mysteries.

 

The search for answers – and adventure – will take him into the most extreme climates on the planet, as he braves sub-zero temperatures to snowmobile across the Siberian Tundra investigating one of the coldest cases of the Cold War: the baffling deaths of nine hikers on Russia’s infamous Dead Mountain.

 

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We have launched brand spanking new Dyatlov Pass YouTube Channel featuring Part 1 of Expedition Unknown with Josh Gates "Mystery of Dead Mountain".

 

 

Yes, that's right - there is going to be Part 2 - "Siberia's Coldest Case" set to premiere Wednesday, September 4, 9PM EST.

 

It will also be uploaded on the channel.

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Irina Rashevskaya (Doroshenko) Part 1

DYATLOV PASS·PIĄTEK, 6 WRZEŚNIA 2019·8 MIN

 

© Rashevskaya I.N., "INTERNET CENTER of Dyatlov group Tragedy", 2011 Letter from Irina Nikolaevna Rashevskaya

Hello, Alexander

I don't even know where to start.

The only relative of Yuri, I was left alone in this world.

A bit about our family.

Yuri was born on January 29, 1938.

My brother Volodya June 6, 1941.

Dad graduated from Kiev HMI (Hydrometeorological Institute) in 1935.

When the Second World War began, our family was sent along with the factory where my father worked in the Urals, city of Rezh.

I was born in 1945.

In 1954 our father dies from a heart attack.

In 1955 Yuri receives a certificate of maturity with a medal and enters the UPI.

Mom with me and our brother Volodya leaves for Kazakhstan to our grandmother.

Brother Volodya, after graduation, went to study at UPI.

In the winter of 1959, it was nighttime when the military men arrived and said that there was an incident with Yuri.

I was 13 years old.

I remember how my mother and aunt Marusya (my mother’s sister) flew with the men on an airplane.

Then mother brought Yuri's things.

And what was there? Not much.

We lived very poorly.

For 4 years of study, mother somehow managed to get him a coat because all he had was a jacket.

This is in the freezing Sverdlovsk.

Unthinkable.

And she sent him a coat.

And this when Yuri was no longer alive.

How did mom cried.

I remember that she was telling and showing a sweatshirt and a sweater, both ruined.

Tinted with orange powder.

It seems all the dead were orange.

My brother Volodya studied in UPI at this time.

He met with relatives of the victims and reported all the versions to my mother.

Then the relatives were told not to go there anymore.

To drop it.

No one will tell them anything.

I have in my hands Gradebook №556279 Doroshenko Yuri Nikolaevich, radio-technical faculty.

Specialty - automatic, tele-mechanical and electrical measuring instruments and devices.

He passed his last exam on January 21, 1959.

4th year.

All grades are A and B.

My brother Volodya, although he lived in Kiev (with mother, she died in 2003, from heart), kept in touch with the relatives of the dead and hikers in general.

He himself was a good hiker and died (his heart stopped) in the mountains in 2008 while ascending Mt Elbrus.

Although he was retired and worked he went with friends to the mountains every summer.

Having graduated from college and married, I remained in Kazakhstan.

I went every year to visit my family in Kiev, and we talked about Yuri, just talk.

I did not look at any documents.

Volodya was in charge of everything.

Now his wife Natasha lives in Kiev.

I sent her your letter.

And I wait for her to answer.

She and her son will search through the papers and find the answers to your questions.

I can not do anything else.

Irina

Transcript of the conversation "CENTER for Civil Investigation of the Dyatlov Tragedy", NAVIG with Irina Nikolaevna Rashevskaya (Doroshenko), IND, in the Dyatlov group case on September 28, 2011

NAVIG: Please introduce yourself.

IND: I am Irina Nikolaevna Rashevskaya.

I am the sister of Yuri Doroshenko.

I am the only relative of Yuri and I am left alone in this world.

A bit about our family.

Yuri was born on January 29, 1938.

My brother Volodya June 6, 1941.

Dad graduated from the Kiev HMI (Hydrometeorological Institute) in 1935.

When the Second World War began, our family was sent along with the factory to the Urals in the city of Rezh. I was born in 1945.

NAVIG: Irina Nikolaevna, you lived in Kiev at first?

IND: I was born there…

NAVIG: And Yuri was born in Kiev?

IND: Yuri was born in the Kursk region.

NAVIG: What city?

IND: In the Streletskiy district of the Kursk region on January 29, 1938, he studied secondary school №44 in the city of Rezh Sverdlovsk Region and completed in 1955 with a medal.

NAVIG: Well then we’ll clarify the city later...

And parents lived there too?

IND: Yes…

First lived in Kiev… then we left for the Kursk region… and here with Yuri and little brother, rode to the Urals in a carriage.

NAVIG: The city of Rezh, is it far from Sverdlovsk?

IND: The city of Rezh is not far. My brother Volodya and I arrived in 2004 at the Yuri's cemetery to visit and go to the town of Rezh.

At first we went to the cemetery, cleaned it, then got on a suburban train and drove to the city of Rezh, and then we visited the grave of my father there.

We spent the night at the station in Sverdlovsk.

My brother went to Kiev, and I went to Ust-Kamenogorsk.

We met often with him, every 5 years we went to visit.

We did not know anyone in Sverdlovsk.

Therefore, they came and the next day... off we go.

NAVIG: Tell about the investigation in 1959?

What do you know about this?

IND: In 59, I was still in... seventh grade.

Some men came at night.

They called in the middle of the night, there were three of them ...

NAVIG: Did you see them?

IND: In military uniform…

NAVIG: They introduced themselves who they are?

IND: It was night... mom opened the door for them... they came in.

Then I went out of the room: there was something...

One was in some kind of dark, or blue, uniform.

And two were very fit, lean.

In winter hats... my brother was already studying at this institute in Sverdlovsk.

NAVIG: Did you already hear about the death of the Dyatlov group or you did not know?

IND: They did not say that he was no longer alive.

They said that there has been an incident...

You have to come with us.

NAVIG: Your family did not know anything yet?

IND: No, no, nothing.

NAVIG: And when did they come... what month?

IND: It was like this - they arrived, they took mother away, with sister Aunt Marusya and immediately flew away.

And when they arrived there by plane they attended the funeral right away.

NAVIG: I.e. immediately to the funeral?

IND: Yes, right away to the funeral.

Mom said she came and he was already in the coffin.

She didn’t recognize him, and everything... everything was... his complexion... she didn’t recognize him at all.

NAVIG: From which city did they take off?

IND: From Aktyubinsk, Kazakhstan…

NAVIG: Ok, but you lived in Rezh?

IND: No.

When my father was gone, we went to live in the city of Aktyubinsk with my grandmother.

Mom was taken away by plane and sent back by plane.

They said take away what you want... but there was nothing to take.

NAVIG: And what did they bring (mom and sister)?

IND: She said something about a sweater that was ruined... where it was... and she said something about a sweatshirt...

NAVIG: Did you see the clothes personally?

IND: I don’t remember...

I just heard her talking.

NAVIG: You wrote in a letter to me that the color of things was orange?

IND: Yes, and mom said that he was everywhere... that he was all orange.

NAVIG: What were they talking with her about there?

Did they say was the cause of death was?

IND: When she arrived, they said that they froze and that’s all.

And when my brother was there (NAVIG note: in UPI)… studied for five years… and all these years when he came home in the summer my mother asked him… either bear attacked them, weapon tests failure - something exploded, then a rocket fell - a lot of talk has been in all these years.

Mom asked, well, what exactly happened there - go, find out… and my brother said... who will listen to me, a student, when parents, more respected, more competent, went, they were sent back and told not to show up anymore, everything is classified.

NAVIG: And where did they go specifically, do you know?

IND: I dont know… my brother also went hiking and wanted to go there right away (NAVIG note: to Dyatlov Pass), but they weren’t allowed to go there...

Then he graduated, he was sent to Krasnoyarsk... then he left for Kiev and mother left.

NAVIG: Did Yuri said something to the family before leaving?

IND: He only wrote letters... they came once a month, but I don’t have them... they maybe in Kiev.

NAVIG: Have your family appealed to the official authorities over the next 50 years?

IND: I don’t know anything about this.

My mom was already an elderly woman and of course did not go anywhere.

NAVIG: And your brother?

IND: He believed 100% that they were testing weapons, he had no doubts.

NAVIG: Did anything survive that returned the investigation in 59?

Did he have a camera?

IND: No, there was no camera, that's for sure.

There are definitely no белонгингс in Ust-Kamenogorsk.

NAVIG: And how do you feel about the fact that the case will be reviewed now?

IND: That would be good.

NAVIG: And you yourself what you think about the cause of their death?

IND: I think that there were tests of new weapons and something went south.

They were caught at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Namely, it is connected with military equipment.

No doubt about it.

Nothing else.

Avalanche is nonsense...

The color of their skin confirms it...

I just heard what my mother said - orange.

NAVIG: Irina Nikolaevna, thanks for the interview.

Sources in Russian:
Irina Rashevskaya (Doroshenko) letter
Interview Navig with Irina Rashevskaya (Doroshenko)

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Interview with Irina R. (Doroshenko) by Maya Piskareva Part 2

DYATLOV PASS·PIĄTEK, 6 WRZEŚNIA 2019·14 MIN

 

ID - Irina Doroshenko Rashevskaya, sister of Yuri Doroshenko, a member of Dyatlov group on their tragic expedition
MP - Maya Piskareva

Yuri Doroshenko was born on January 29, 1938.

He was born, grew up, studied, graduated from high school, entered the Institute of Radio Engineering, became interested in ski hiking, like almost all his fellow students of those years, went on an expedition and died. On that trek, a few days before his death, he turned 21.

What do we know about him?

Almost nothing.

There are a few kind words about him and his friends from Dyatlov group, by their fellow Polytech Evgeniy Zinovyev.

Thanks to him, we know some episodes from the life of Juri.

One of them: the Eastern Sayans, on a student hike, "to the forest edge, overgrown with blueberries, in the evening, when tents were set up and a fire was made, a big brown bear suddenly arrived.

This sudden danger was announced by the heartrending cry of Yuri Doroshenko.

He himself, without hesitation, fearlessly advanced towards the beast with a geological hammer in his hands...

Yuri Doroshenko did not chase the beast for long, but returned to the camp with the appearance of a winner, a brave, courageous man who had overcome his fear".

Yuri Yudin.

The tenth.

The surviving participant of the very last trek of the Dyatlov group recalls that he started going to hikes at the same time as Yuri and they joined the Polytech’s hiking section together, "as if they were already friends", because they always went together on all those first hikes.

Yuri Blinov characterizes Doroshenko as a person with outstanding physical strength, calm and persistent, "but not always".

"He and Zina loved each other."

Yuri Doroshenko and Zina Kolmogorova, the theme is eternal.

There was love, they wanted to get married.

But something went wrong in the relationship.

Zina was tormented.

In that hike, they suddenly found themselves together.

“Such a playboy”, Zina wrote in her diary.

But at the same time, in a letter to a friend on the train, she writes at the beginning of the trip: "He is walking with one of the girls in hand.

Jealous."

"We are together and not together."

Like that...

Once I found out that Irina Rashevskaya, who is on the forum "paranormal Russia", is the sister of Yuri Doroshenko, one of the members of the Dyatlov group, who tragically died in the mountains of the Northern Urals under unexplained circumstances.

I wanted to talk to her.

I asked her for some questions.

Irina Nikolaevna kindly agreed.

But to my deep regret, the conversation did not work out. Read for yourself.

I could not find contact with Irina Nikolaevna.

I am unhappy with this interview.

But I don’t want to keep it “in the drawer”; nevertheless, there are some interesting information in it that will allow you to learn a little more about Yuri Doroshenko.

MP: Dear Irina Nikolaevna!

I have a few questions for you, as sister of Yuri Doroshenko.

They are not so much my questions as the collective work of several people investigating the tragedy.

While we are talking about somebody, we extend his life, as if giving him a new life in our hearts.

Thank you for agreeing to answer our questions!

Sorry, for Christ’s sake, some immodest questions.

I don’t want to hurt you, but it’s just necessary to clarify some points.

Therefore, I apologize in advance to you.

MP: Is it true that your mother did not recognize Juri's body?

I.e. she did not recognize him in that person whom she was shown?

ID: To this question I answered Navig.

MP: You said that at night the military came to your home and took mom and aunt with them, that mom got to the funeral right away.

I.e. she was first shown her son in a coffin, right at the funeral, and she did not recognize him.

That Yuri had an unusual complexion, "she didn’t recognize him at all!"

It may be that in the coffin was not Juri, but another person?

Yuri Doroshenko, end of January 1959, photo from the last expedition, which ended tragically

ID: (no comment)

Note: interesting fact is that, at first the body of Yuri found under the cedar was reported in a radiogram to be that of Zolotaryov.

Although search party member student Mihail Sharavin, the first to discover the bodies by the cedar, said that he recognized Yuri Doroshenko immediately.

MP: They say that in the morgue, some girl identified Yuri.

Do you know anything about her who she was?

ID: They didn’t talk in front of me about this, I was little.

MP: Yuri suffered from epilepsy?

Or any other disease?

ID: No.

MP: How do you remember Yuri?

What was he like?

What books did I read, what kind of music did he listen to, did he have a hobby?

ID: I remember him as kind, attentive...

He and Volodya liked to "launch" rockets.

MP: Do you remember the last time you saw Yuri?

ID: No, I don't.

MP: Why did he go on that trip with Igor Dyatlov, did he explain the reason to his mother?

Did he write in a letter that he was going camping?

ID: No.

Letters came after a month.

MP: Was there any bad premonition among relatives about this expedition?

ID: Nobody told me about premonition.

MP: Did you dream about Juri?

Was he in your mom's dreams or anybody in your family?

If so, can you tell me what this dream was about?

ID: (no comment)

MP: Did you or somebody in the family - mother - know about the relationship between Zina Kolmogorova and Yuri?

ID: There were no conversations in front of me, I was then "little".

MP: Is it true that Zina and Yuri wanted to get married?

If this is not true about his relation with Zina, did Yuri have another girl?

Did Yuri say anything to mom?

Please once again excuse me for these issues, which affect the intimate sphere.

It’s just that a lot of things are thought out on the topic of relations between Zina and Juri, and the establishment of how true Zina’s diaries are will depend on your explanation.

Or if they were doctored by the "organs".

ID: Maya, I am shocked by this question!

What intimate sphere!

I haven’t read Zina’s diaries.

I have no idea.

When Yuri entered UPI, we left for Kazakhstan.

I was 10 years old.

When Yuri died, I was 13 years old.

MP: Dear Irina, excuse me for choosing the word "intimate" incorrectly.

Of course, this word has many meanings.

I meant, did you hear at home conversations that Yuri is friends with Zina, and that they were going to get married.

That is exactly what rumors are still circulating, while others say that Yuri did not pay any attention to Zina, and all this was not serious and generally a lie in diaries written by an unknown person.

But Zina's diaries say that they still had a very friendly relationship, and she was not indifferent to him.

You didn't read Zina’s diaries, but probably none of the modern researchers did.

Because the diaries that we know of are very contradictory, but in the original it is noticeable that some pages are simply erased and a new text is written on top of the old one.

Zina's sister doesn't want to submit the diaries for handwriting examination, and of course, she has the right to do so.

Once again, I apologize for involuntarily angering you.

Please forgive me!

ID: Maya, yes, we had Zina’s photo at home.

My brother Volodya said that this is Yuri's girl.

And they didn’t say more, they say, you’re still young.

If mom and brother were alive (they died in 2003 and in 2008, respectively), then they could tell a lot.

Moreover, they lived together in Kiev.

And I just came to them on vacation.

Yuri and Zina, together forever...

MP: Did any belongings of Juri remain in your family, mementos of him, letters, photographs?

If there are any letters or photos left, will you publish them on the Internet?

ID: I have already talked about this with Navig. (I have no letters).

MP: Are you in contact with any of the relatives of the dead hikers?

Did fellow students of Yuri write to you?

ID: I answered this question Navigu. (We did not know anyone in Sverdlovsk.)

Note: A somewhat unclear moment... after all, her brother Volodya talked with the relatives of the dead hikers, and therefore, knew them.

Probably, the explanation is that the relatives of the dead students have not lived in Sverdlovsk for a long time, and Irina is not personally acquainted with them, all contacts were through her brother.

MP: Do you have any thoughts on the death of the group?

What is your version of the reasons for the tragedy?

ID: I already answered this question Navig. (These were unsuccessful tests of a new weapon.)

MP: Is it true that after death, Juri's skin color was unusual?

ID: I answered Navig (mom said that he was orange)

MP: Do you keep in touch with the Dyatlov Group Memory Fund, where the head is Yuri Kuntsevich?

Do you do your own research about the tragedy?

Do you visit forums?

What kind?

ID: I talk to Navig.

MP: Do you remember how did you celebrated Yuri’s birthday at home and what presents did you give him?

ID: No.

MP: I’m asking just in case, if you remember?

I understand that students are always tight with money, and time was poor.

When Yuri came home for the holidays, did he bring home any gifts?

ID: No.

MP: Did Yuri tell you any stories as a younger sister?

Or did he communicate more with his brother?

ID: Only with my brother.

Yuri with sister Irina and brother Volodya

MP: Do you tell your children and grandchildren about Juri?

Are any of them interested in investigating this mystery?

ID: Watch "Classmates.

Doroshenko (Rashevskaya) 66 years Kazakhstan East Kazakhstan region.

Irina"

Note: I saw it - Irina Nikolaevna named her son Yuri after her brother.

Irina Rashevskaya (Doroshenko) with her son Yuri

MP: Did Yuri talk about his studies at home, were there any funny stories?

Did he talk about his friends at the institute?

ID: He talked about this only with my brother.

MP: Dear Irina Nikolaevna, thank you for your attention, for taking the time to answer these questions!

Afterword

Irina Nikolaevna wrote a letter to Navig in 2011 and then gave him an interview on September 28, 2011.

Unfortunately, this interview did not address in detail the very important points that Irina Rashevskaya mentioned, namely:

"Then mother brought Yuri's things.

And what was there? Not much.

We lived very poorly.

For 4 years of study, mother somehow managed to get him a coat because all he had was a jacket.

This is in the freezing Sverdlovsk.

Unthinkable.

And she sent him a coat.

And this when Yuri was no longer alive.

How did mom cried.

I remember that she was telling and showing a sweatshirt and a sweater, both ruined. Tinted with orange powder."

"My brother Volodya studied in UPI at this time.

He met with relatives of the victims and reported all the versions to my mother.

Then the relatives were told not to go there anymore.

To drop it."

(I would like to know with whom of the relatives of Dyatlov group did her brother Volodya spoke and what did they talk about, it is a pity that Navig did not ask.)

"Having graduated from college and married, I remained in Kazakhstan.

I went every year to visit my family in Kiev, and we talked about Yuri, just talk."

(I'd love to know what did they talked about, but Navig did not ask about this.)

"My brother Volodya, although he lived in Kiev (with mother, she died in 2003, from heart), kept in touch with the relatives of the dead and hikers in general...

Now his wife Natasha lives in Kiev.

I sent her your letter.

And I wait for her to answer.

She and her son will search through the papers and find the answers to your questions.

(I would like to know if her brother’s wife wrote back and if she found any documents, but alas, this we don't known.

Navig is not talking, Irina neither.)

It so happened that my dialog with Irina Nikolaevna resumed again, and she answered some important questions.

I put her answers in this interview so that they do not get lost in threads of the forums.

MP: Irina Nikolaevna, please tell me, did Yuri wear glasses?

Some photographs show that he was wearing glasses, and seemed to have large diopters.

ID: Yes, Yuri wore glasses.

And what was the diopter, I do not know, of course.

Now, if someone were to ask 4 years ago, when my brother Volodya was alive, we would have learned so much information about Juri.

Volodya lived with mother in Kiev.

And I have been in Ust-Kamenogorsk since I was 17 (I went to study in the institute).

And I went to Kiev only on vacation.

And often did not have enough time to catch up on everything.

Volodya's heart stopped while climbing Mount Elbrus.

There was no one to save him.

Volodya was three years younger than Yuri.

He went to Elbrus more than once...

But he perish in 2008.

This is the fate of my brothers.

Yuri Doroshenko wearing glasses.

MP: This is so sad... Irina Nikolaevna, I think that the second pair of glasses, broken with diopters -4, -4.5, in a green case, found in a tent that could not be identified and were first attributed to Lyuda Dubina then to Kolya Thibeaux-Brignolle, were actually your brother’s glasses.

Why the investigation did not present them for identification to the witness for Yuri - Victor Kostrulin, I don't know, but this witness even identified Yuri's shirts, underpants and socks, although he did not live in the same dormitory.

Do you know this name?

Maybe Yuri mentioned him at home as his friend?

The glasses according to very unreliable protocols for identifying belongings were attributed to Kolya Thibeaux, who according to the testimonies of relatives and fellow students did not wear glasses at all.

But even Kolya’s relatives didn’t seem to have returned them, because there is no receipt for receiving the glasses.

ID: Maya, very sorry, but I am not aware of any of this.

MP: Irina Nikolaevna, there were some discrepancies between the recollections of the funeral of the hikers.

According to the memoirs of V.F. Bogomolov, it seems that all four were buried on the same day together, Igor, Zina, Rustem and Yuri, and the wake was in the lobby of the student dormitory №10 on Lenin Street (for some reason, he didn’t say anything about Yuri Krivonischenko).

And in the diary of Yuri Blinov a completely different picture is described: on March 9, Zina, Yuri Doroshenko and Yuri Krivonischenko were buried, and the next day, Igor and Rustem.

Judging by the few photos from the funeral at the Mihailovskoe cemetery, it can be seen that there were only two cars, each of them had one obelisk and an open coffin.

Yuri Krivonischenko, as we know, was buried in another cemetery.

I understand that it may be difficult for you to remember the painful moments of your brother’s funeral, but please try to look at these photos and try to find your relatives.

I would like to make sure that on March 9, your brother Yuri was buried with Zina.

ID: Maya, I watched in one breath!

There are so many photos that I see for the first time.

And there is a close-up where is mother with her sister (my aunt) and some girl.

This is probably Yuri’s girlfriend, or a very good friend!

Yuri Doroshenko's aunt, his mother, and a girl friend of Yuri’s

MP: Thank you very much, dear Irina Nikolaevna!

So, it was definitely Juri and Zina.

The stranger girl next to your relatives is probably a student of UPI, and maybe, over time, someone from former UPI students will recognize her.

Perhaps this is the very girl who is rumored to have identified Yuri’s body in the morgue.

MP: Irina Nikolaevna, I ask all relatives what do you think about the installation of the Memorial Cross in the forest at the site of the death of the group?

ID: In Kiev, relatives are deeply religious.

For three years I studied at a Sunday school at Holy Trinity Monastery.

A cross at the place of death - it would be very good!

But it needs a lot of money!

Relatives of Yuri Doroshenko follow the coffin

Relatives of Yuri Doroshenko follow the coffin

Relatives of Yuri Doroshenko follow the coffin

Maya Piskareva © 9 May - November 2012

Interview in Russian

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Interview with the son of Churkina

DYATLOV PASS·CZWARTEK, 19 WRZEŚNIA 2019·

Alina, the administrator of the taina.li forum, asked me to contact Igor Olegovich Makushkin, even strongly advised, informing that Igor Olegovich, the son of that same expert in the Dyatlov case, Churkina, Genrieta Eliseevna, had just registered at the forum and might want to talk about topics of long interest to us about the participation of his mother in the investigation of the mysterious death of Dyatlov group.

Igor Olegovich responded to my letter, though not immediately, answered only a few questions, also not right away.

It’s necessary to understand that he’s a busy person, he is teaching, moreover, Igor Olegovich simply didn’t know the answer, explaining that Genrieta Eliseevna signed a non-disclosure of the secrets of the investigation in Dyatlov case, which she had access to as a forensic expert, and under no circumstances violated it.

I would like to acquaint with his answers all those interested in revealing that distant tragedy.

Legend in the intewrview:

IOM - Igor Olegovich Makushkin, the son of the same expert on Dyatlov case - Genrietta Eliseevna Churkina
MP - Maya Piskareva

MP: Dear Igor Olegovich!

I am very glad that you agreed to talk about your mother and answer some burning questions.

IOM: Of course, I in no way object to our communication, especially since it concerns my mother.

1962 Genrietta Eliseevna Churkina (Makushkina) at her desk

My mother, Makushkina (Churkina) Genrietta Eliseevna (12 Nov 1930 - 02 Feb 1999), was born in Sysert, Sverdlovsk Region, in the family of a lawyer (judge) and teacher.

In 1954, having graduated from the Sverdlovsk Law Institute, she was hired as an expert in Sverdlovsk forensic research laboratory.

During the period of her work there she conducted many examinations, including on the most “high-profile” cases of those years (the death of Dyatlov group, the case of Korovin brothers gang, etc.).

She was an expert in the field of trace examination, forensic handwriting analysis, technical and forensic examination of documents.

Since 1967 G.E. Makushkina is a lecturer in the Department of Forensics, Sverdlovsk Law Institute, since 1973 - candidate of legal sciences, associate professor of the same department.

She had more than hundred scientific and educational publications, was the author of three "Forensics" textbooks.

Until the last days, she was devoted to the one thing she loved in life - forensics.

Her heart didn't stand the third heart attack.

I also followed my mother's footsteps.

For many years he worked as a forensic expert in the same laboratory, and then became a Professor of Forensic Science.

Now I’m 50, I am the head of a non-governmental expert organization, I also teach at the department at the Law Academy in Yekaterinburg.

MP: Did Genrietta Eliseevna shared with you her thoughts and assumptions about the case?

IOM: Of course, I heard about Dyatlov case since I was young.

Mom told me how they flew to the north of the Sverdlovsk region to inspect the scene of the incident, how she was present at the autopsy of the dead along with the forensic doctor Boris Vozrozhdenny, whom I myself later got to know when I started working as an expert.

In my mother’s home archive there is a second copy of the tent examination (the first copy is in the case file, and a fragment of it is published on the Internet).

After reading the numerous published materials, I realized that I did not have any additional information.

Everything, it seems, has already been said...

About the cuts from the inside of the tent, and about the unusual coloring of objects at the scene and the clothes of the victims, and about the inexplicable lack of tongue in one of the members of the group ...

I also know that my mother signed a non-disclosure of the information that became known to her in connection with the investigation in this case.

I don't think she shared everything she knew.

I think she took something with her.

MP: Igor Olegovich, I would like to clarify some details about the strange ancense of the tongue of L.Dubinina.

After the appearance of the book by A.Gushtin, "The price of state secrets is nine lives," information spread that it was the expert G.E. Churkina who suggested that the tongue split off when transporting the frozen body.

In a conversation with S. Kuleshova at the Radio Svoboda studio in Yekaterinburg, A.Gushtin so bluntly says that "especially the trauma with the loss of the tongue of Dubinina shocked everyone and was not explained for a very long time.

However, expert Churkina - Makushkina, who was talking a lot about this event, literally said the following, that they immediately told the forensic expert Vozdvizhenskiy (mistake - ed.) that, most likely, the corpses of the students, when they were scattered, were already dead and frozen, and when the corpses were dumped into one pile, apparently Dubinina hit the ground so hard that her tongue split off as a piece of ice.

That's the only explanation, it seems to me, that somehow puts everything in its place."

This statement by A. Gushtin was picked up by many people and spread on the Internet and the press, as the opinion of expert Churkina.

Which led and still leads to great bewilderment of all sane people who have a concept of the anatomy and structure of the human oral cavity.

Sorry, but a forensic forensic expert cannot say that!

It seems to me that the usual disinformation is going on here, which is characteristic of such a mysterious case.

After all, A. Gushtin admitted that he wrote his book precisely by the order of the deputy Prosecutor of the region V. Tuflyakov: "Let me give you the case, you will study it, then we will give you our comments, and you will write them down.

Of course, he pushed me.

And then it was not so easy to research the matter.

It was necessary to formally submit a request, wait a while, then he gave me everything right there.

And moreover, he connected me with experts who later gave me very valuable, I think, comments that really convinced me of my version."

It turns out that it was a kind of state order for allegedly revealing state secrets, how paradoxical it is to hear it, but few people pay attention to this fact.

After all, no one before you could refute these words.

And everyone will believe the words of her son.

Tell me, did your mother really think that the tongue broke off like a piece of ice?

IOM: I have never heard such a version from my mother.

This is made up! I myself was extremely surprised that I read on the forum that "the tongue broke off like an ice..." This is rubbish!!!

For a forensic expert of such a high level as my mother - Genrietta Eliseevna Makushkina (Churkina) to expresses such an absurd version - this is nonsense!

I myself have been engaged in forensic examinations all my life, so I spoke to my mother not as amateurs, but as an experts.

In fact, I have repeatedly heard from my mother various information about the facts of the forensic examination in Dyatlov case.

There was no specific explanation for the missing tongue and eyes of Dubinina.

Mom stated only the fact of the presence of these injuries.

The mechanism of formation and the cause of the damage has not been clarified by anyone.

MP: Thank you so much for refuting this lie about the missing tongue (all the more, the autopsy report mentions that there is no mouth diaphragm), which was spread on the Internet supposedly as a recollection of criminal expert G. Churkina!

I am the administrator of a large social media group on the topic of the tragedy, there are more than 7 thousand people in our group.

And I try to keep less rumors and outright lies on this topic, especially when the “experts” from Komsomolskaya Pravda and Channel One took up the topic of the tragedy, and the cult for the dead Dyatlov group reached its peak.

IOM: Maya, I am very grateful to you for the initiative and work on organizing the site and the forum dedicated to Dyatlov group.

Yes, there are a lot of forums, and they write and invent whatever comes to mind.

The programs of Channel 1 surprised with their superficiality and oversights.

Malakhov’s goal is rating, to the detriment of content.

I wrote to the program, but they did not answer me. Apparently, there is no interest.

Objectivity is not needed!

MP: Igor Olegovich, they’re just airheads!

As you noticed, people unprepared for the topic missed a person like you, but on the other hand, they invited complete strangers of an exotic orientation to the program who could express more delusional versions and fabricated intrigues, and thereby increase the channel’s rating without worrying about quality of information and lowering the bar of professionalism of journalists.

I am sure that the continuation will follow, and they will remember about you, sooner or later they will come to their senses.

Igor Olegovich, if you can, please comment on the following: there were also rumors in the internet about how your mother said that the clothes of the hikers found in the ravine in May after drying had a lilac hue, is this true or not, and was there such a thing at all?

You see, people immediately have a counter question: if the experts noticed the unusual color of the clothes on the bodies found in the stream, they should have examined the cause of this discoloration of the clothes of the dead.

But as we know, in the case file there are no results of such examination.

And people begin to blame the experts B. Vozrozhdenny and G. Churkina for everything, that’s why they didn’t do the tests, they didn’t check...

IOM: Regarding the change of the color...

I remember that it was only about the skin of bodies.

Mom said that the color of the skin was closer to orange.

I do not remember anything said about the purple shade of the belongings.

This is only lately that the case gets such attention, back then... it was just one of her cases she worked on and nothing more.

Now, if we could ask my mom now!

She was at the scene, and was present during the examination of the corpses.

You could say that almost all the material on the case went through her hands.

You say that people begin to blame the experts B. Vozrozhdenny and G. Churkina for everything...

Experts can not be blamed for anything!

An expert is a bonded person who must solve only the issues indicated in the resolution of the investigator.

There is, of course, the concept of “expert initiative”, when the expert himself can answer questions that are not posed to him, but, according to the expert, are significant.

This is not the case!

The case was kept secret, non-disclosures were signed, work was done with constant control "from above", the desire to close and forget was clearly expressed, and so that with the least publicity.

Mom was surprised that at least these examinations were carried out.

Vozrozhdenny - he was generally afraid of his own shadow during these examinations.

The investigation pressured and did not allow to take a single step to the side, limiting only to the most necessary and essential for the procedures.

The goal was rather to close the case, "without noise and dust".

MP: Igor Olegovich, I want to express my gratitude to you for clarifying some of the behind-the-scenes sides of expert life, unknown to the public.

Indeed, some people don't say it, but sometimes I had the thought that the experts were in collusion with the investigation, and some even accused the experts of incompetence.

Your story clarifies a lot by refuting these allegations.

You see, some kind of vicious circle arose here: investigator Korotaev accused the party chiefs and criminal investigator Ivanov of concealing evidence and falsifying the investigation, investigator Ivanov in the mid-90s began to accuse the party authorities of pressure on the investigation, you write that the investigation put pressure on experts.

I wonder who then pressed the party organs?

Of course, this is a joke, I understand that someone pressed and pointed at every specialist related to that investigation.

It’s now from the side all people who are not involved in the matter can criticize the investigation and experts, presenting themselves as bold and courageous.

But experts had families, a career could have collapsed, if anything went against the instructions of higher authorities.

Therefore, every remark of witnesses, every word of truth, clarifying the events that happened then in the investigation and covered over the years with a layer of untruth and unfair accusations, is valuable.

I also want to note that knowledgeable people, professionals, and doctors see the work of forensic expert B. Vozrozhdenny very well, as he tried to walk along the razor's edge, display at least some truth in his brief autopsy, and treat him with respect.

Igor Olegovich, another question that worries many researchers. For some reason, the autopsy reports do not have the signature of your mother, although her last name is indicated.

Was she present as a witness, or in some other capacity?

Can the autopsy report be considered a valid document where there are no signatures of other people present during the investigation of the body, but there is only the signature of the medical examiner Vozrozhdenny, who conducted the examination?

IOM: Mom - she devoted her whole life to forensic examinations and the teaching of forensic science.

By type of activity, of course, she cooperated quite well with forensic doctors, and with some I was on friendly terms, and I personally knew Vozrozhdenny.

Yes, I know this fact and the Vozrozhdenny himself told.

The fact that the Autopsy report does not have the signature of expert Churkina is true.

Mom did not conduct an examination, but only attended the study.

This practice is common.

I myself, as an expert, often attended court medical examinations.

For example, I, as a forensic expert, are presented with clothes with gunshot injuries and weapons, and the corpse, of course, is examined at the forensic bureau.

Conversely, forensic doctors are present when examining clothes from a corpse or weapons in a crime lab.

When related examinations take place in one case, the experts communicate, they are present during the examination, but do not conduct the examination themselves, so there can be no signatures.

By the way, I had a hand in the examination of the remains of Nikolai II and his family.

Maybe it's going to come up one day... maybe...

MP: Igor Olegovich, who developed the films from the Dyatlov group cameras on your opinion?

There could be a film.

Could your mom be developing the films?

Did she tell you anything about film from Dyatlov’s cameras?

IOM: No, Maya, didn't hear anything about developing films from Dyatlov group.

If it were, I think I would know, because I myself was professionally involved in photography and a fact like this fact, I believe, I would have heard.

I myself have worked in the same laboratory for over 10 years.

For all these years I can’t recall a single appeal from the investigating authorities or the prosecutor’s office regarding the processing of photographic materials.

Theoretically, this, of course, is possible, but ready-made materials are provided for the examination, on which the expert has to work.

And present for processing the film taken from the scene?

An expert is not a photographer, this does not fall into his competence.

An investigator can ask as a favor, but then how to process this?

Assign a darkroom...? - also not an option.

What the expert himself filmed during the inspection of the scene is, of course, his business, but other materials practically do not come across.

MP: So, the films from the cameras of the Dyatlov group were developed some place else.

I will give you the recollections of a student as he talked about these films.

Therefore, I had a question, but where did they appear before they got to investigator L.N. Ivanov.

Boris Bychkov: "Having returned from the trek, we learned about the tragedy.

By that time, they had not yet found all the dead, only at the cedar and on the slope...

The next day, E. Chubarev told me that they were waiting for us at the regional prosecutor’s office at Malysheva St, 2b. In addition to Zhenya and me, Yuri Yudin was invited, one who, having left the route due to illness, avoided a sad fate.

We met L.N. Ivanov.

He introduced himself, brought us to the darkroom and explained the task: we should print as many photos as possible from the films of the dead members of the group in order to distribute the pictures to the families of the deceased, as well as to our friends and members of the UPI sports club.

To our question: "why?", Lev Nikitich said a strange, as it seemed to us, phrase: "Someone wants to portray what happened as a result of improper leadership and disagreement in the team."

In the darkroom there was equipment familiar to us: a magnifier, baths, a red lamp, tweezers, developer and fixer paper packs, as well as packages with format 9х12 photo paper.

Y. Yudin did not work with us for long, only the first run of all films.

We printed the photos for two full days.

On some films, after the photographs of the hike, there were frames of corpses made by those who found the dead.

We did not reproduce these frames in many copies, only - two - three.

Unfortunately, there are no frames left in my memory about which V. Yakimenko writes in his article.

Neither I nor Zhenya Chubarev paid any attention to them, for us they were "ruined" frames.

The pictures were the hiking days.

Here they are, joyful, posing during the breaks.

Here they walk with their backpacks.

The latest photographs show how, already at dusk, they level the site and set up a tent..."

Igor Olegovich, in connection with the foregoing, I have an amateur question, I would very much like to clarify this point: although you said that for 10 years you have not dealt with photographic materials, but hypothetically, according to the instructions, if the materials arrived, undeveloped, to the laboratory accidentally, the expert can make a test shot of the camera on that film that is in the camera?

Just click in the lab before you take it out of the camera and start developing?

Or is it not supposed to follow the instructions?

For some reason, I thought that forensic experts are also involved in the examination of photographic materials, and the photographic materials coming from the scene with a resolution of the investigation for development and examination, designed as evidence.

IOM: Maya, if the film is a material evidence, then, of course, the expert cannot shoot anything on this film, because does not have the right to modify the object of study.

The Criminal Laboratory of the Ministry of Justice system is not a photo studio where investigators carry processing photo materials.

If the photo-technical expertise is related directly to photographic materials, as an object of study, then it's a different story.

For example, "whether a photograph was taken by this photo camera", "photographs were printed from this film", etc.

Within the framework of a trace, handwriting or other type of examination, an unprepared object is NEVER presented to an expert.

What is the task of examination?

Develop a film and see what is shot there?

The examination solves the specific issues specified in the investigator’s resolution.

The investigator’s decision to develop the film, as you wrote, does not happen.

At least, in the expert institutions of the Ministry of Justice, where my mother worked, and then I did - such a practice has never been and never is.

The experts of the Ministry of Justice have no operational work, no duties, no trips to the scene.

These experts are stationary.

It is extremely rare and in exceptional isolated cases that these experts are involved in observation and other operational activities.

In the ECC Ministry of Internal Affairs - there is a completely different specificity.

They are created for operational action.

Present from arrival (inspection of the scene, accident, search, etc.) and process the collected materials, develop and print photos, make photo robots, etc.

This is to say that in the expert institutions of the Ministry of Justice they have never been engaged in this kind of activity and are not doing it to this day.

So, expert Churkina could not have developed the films from the scene.

MP: Igor Olegovich, I have a question, what kind of powder and what color is usually used by experts when dusting for fingerprints at the scene?

I am interested in what kind of powder could was used in 1959?

IOM: In past years, there was no particular variety of fingerprint powders.

Magnetic powders of various colors, as now, for example, Malachite, Opal, Topaz, etc., did not exist then.

Before there were:

• gas soot - black
• zinc oxide - white
• reduced iron powder - dark gray

 

In addition, chemical detection methods were used on porous surfaces (paper, cardboard) - these are 2% solutions in acetone: Ninhydrin (turns purple), Alloxan - in red-orange and nitric acid silver (lapis) - a solution in distilled water (painted in gray-blue color.

Like a lead one might say).

It was also treated (mainly paper) with iodine vapor (tan).

MP: I was very interested in a certain orange powder, which the sister of the deceased Yuri Doroshenko, Irina Rashevskaya, mentions: "Then mother brought Yuri's things.

And what was there?

Not much.

We lived very poorly.

For 4 years of study, mother somehow managed to get him a coat because all he had was a jacket.

This is in the freezing Sverdlovsk.

Unthinkable.

And she sent him a coat. And this when Yuri was no longer alive.

How did mom cried.

I remember that she was telling and showing a sweatshirt and a sweater, both ruined.

Tinted with orange powder."

Why did things end up in some kind of weird powder.

I am trying to figure this out by excluding versions.

The first version - the powder was left by experts.

The investigator told me that, basically, they always look for traces of sweat (fingerprints), but these traces do not last long on things, so there was no point in looking for them.

They could look for microparticles and microfibres in clothes - this is more relevant.

Maybe, in addition to clothes, there were paper or cardboard or plastic covers in the backpack, and then they were treated with the same alloxan and iodine vapor to find fingerprints, and thereby accidentally stained clothes.

The bodies of Y. Doroshenko was first confused with that of the body of S. Zolotaryov.

If confusion with the identifications began there, then they could fingerprint the corpses in the morgue and compare the obtained fingerprints with the found fingerprints in backpacks on personal belongings of Dyatlov group, some boxes, cases, and the cameras.

But the investigator may still have doubts and the experts may have looked for traces on Y. Doroshenko personal effects and dusted a few items with this mysterious powder.

You, as an expert, what can you say about this unidentified powder?

IOM: I can’t explain this orange powder with which such voluminous objects were processed.

If they are looking for fingerprints, no one will dust the whole object with powder.

In those years, there were no methods for identifying sweat marks on clothing (cloth, knitwear, etc.).

Dusting such objects cannot result in anything.

Only somewhere in the mid-80s, a technique for detecting fingerprints on leather products was introduced, and to this day it is not used on fabrics and other similar materials.

The expert dusts each item with powder separately, selectively and thoroughly, and does not powder the entire item.

If it came to fingerprinting, then who did the examination?

If mom did the trasology on the tent, then where were the other examinations assigned and were they any?

Logically sequentially and, as practice shows, examinations in one case are assigned to one place, and not scattered across different expert institutions.

I do not think that the presence of powder on clothing is the work of an expert.

By the way, traces detected by iodine vapors remain visible for about 15 minutes, so you need to have time to fix them with restored iron.

The yellow color from iodine vapor disappears immediately.

MP: So, experts could not leave any orange powder on Y. Doroshenko's clothes.

Most recently, Irina Rashevskaya, the sister of Yuri Doroshenko, made a new statement about the orange color: "There was no talk about any powder.

It was just that some things were kind of "stained" with orange."

Also, new information appeared on the orange color from Vladimir (ВэйС), who visited the slope of Kholat Syakhl.

Here is what he said: "On June 18 this year, moving along the snowfield, approximately in azimuth 230-240 degrees from the location of the tent and at a distance of 700-800 meters we found an orange-red spot located right on the surface of the snow and penetrating deep into the firn by about 8-10 mm The spot was not plaque-like, as it happens when tree pollen falls on the snow, the snow itself was colored evenly, without spots, on an area of ​​about 300x250 mm...

We slightly dug up the spot, measured it, all this was done without gloves.

Returning to the camp we discovered that this substance stains the clothes quite visibly and persistently and could be wash out only after the second even third time.

Upon returning to Yekaterinburg, photographs and a description of the spot were handed over to specialists of the Institute of Plant and Animal Ecology of the Ural Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences, who easily classified this raid as Watermelon snow (Chlamydomonas nivalis), green unicellular algae.

Below is reference from Wikipedia: Chlamydomonas nivalis - unicellular freshwater green algae with red pigment (carotenoid) astaxanthin (in addition to the green pigment chlorophyll), which causes unusual snow color - red or pink ("snow bloom"), the opposite of thermophilic (thermophilic) algae.

Known for its ability to exist at low temperatures.

In addition to it there are still more than 350 species of such algae.

Once in the atmosphere when water evaporates, they color the snow in shades of black, brown or yellow.

The algae can develop on the surface of water, snow and ice.

It blooms after the darkest and coldest period of winter, with a slight heating of the water, which turns green and, as the weather clears, turns pink or turns red.

Temperature of +4C is already deadly.

Thanks to protection from ultraviolet radiation, which is dangerous for other organisms at heights, it can reproduce at an altitude of up to 3.7 km above sea level.

Latin name is Chlamydomonas nivalis (Bauer) Wille"

IOM: This is really interesting.

I did not understand a bit...

At a positive temperature, these organisms die without a trace?

Or, having died, are able to leave stains for a long time?

If they don’t even wash off immediately, then this is probably the case.

MP: Yes, it is, microorganisms die and leave a color that does not immediately wash off.

Here is another testimony from the slope, Denis Milkov: “Last year, with KAN, in the cedar area between the streams, we found bright orange puddles.

In the area of the alleged search camp on Lozva, our assumptions were based on several sawn trees (height 1-1.5 m.)

We took one such puddle for rust protruding from the ground.

But then Dmitriy came to us and said that he saw the same orange puddles on the slope, going down to the cedar. "

So far, this version still does not convince me to the end.

After all, the algae itself turns red, and the puddles are orange.

It is necessary to conduct an experiment by staining dark things in this algae to find out if the red color turns to orange over time, and in what form and color it is stored on dark clothes.

If dark cotton clothing is stained with orange, then this issue can be considered closed.

It will be one secret less.

IOM: Maya, yes, this is very curious!

A memory somehow pops up...

Yes, indeed, I heard from my mother about orange color of the snow.

Red - orange - these are all shades of red.

Perhaps, under the influence of natural factors, a slight change in shade occurs.

Or maybe the time factor somehow affects the preservation/change in the degree and intensity of the discoloration.

About the color of the snow, no versions, as I recall, were ever discussed.

It was attributed to the general mystery of the incident and the degree of secrecy in which this case was built.

If they rushed it from above, then this is unfair.

There was the version about testing a new weapon, of course.

Changes in the colors of objects were attributed to this from the effects of some substances.

Chemical expertise, as far as I know, was not appointed.

The goal was to close the case as soon as possible, with minimal publicity.

My mother had health problems, so in discussions about possible causes she mentioned this case from expert practice.

She thought, she was exposed to some radiation, or effected by toxic substances.

After all, nobody checked anyone after a trip there.

No tests, no radiation contamination test...

Nothing!

MP: Igor Olegovich, I find very interesting your remark about your mother mentioning the orange snow!

And about the possible radiation contamination on the slope.

You know, Abram Kikoin, a well-known physicist, flew to the slope as the head of a search group.

He taught at UPI.

But according to the memoirs of student P. Bartolomey (now an academician and one of the leaders of the Dyatlov Foundation), Kikoin soon left the slope, according to him, almost the next day after his arrival, leaving the group.

And he flew there with an unknown experimental device, walked along the slope and took some measurements.

His son Konstantin Abramovich Kikoin also spoke about this fact.

Now P.I. Bartolomey is trying to find the person who gave this experimental device to Kikoin.

This man is alive.

And if P.I. Bartholomey finds him, then we will have some information about what was measured there and how much the readings were.

MP: Please allow me to disturb you again, for this reason.

I read a new interview with the journalist A. Gushtin, he says the following: "Anatoly Gushtin: In the late nineties I had the opportunity to repeatedly communicate with a very important witness of those events - Genrietta Eliseevna Makushkina (in 1959 she had a different surname - Churkina).

She did the examination of Dyatlov group tent, which is believed to be cut off by hikers with a knife when, in a panic, scared to death of something or someone, barely clad fled from it down the slope of the Otorten mountain, where then everyone died...

Genrietta Eliseevna was sure that the tent was cut not with an ordinary knife, but with a special one, clearly made of cold steel, but, on the other hand, she perfectly understood that this truth was contraindicated and could even be dangerous.

Therefore, she recorded in the examination exactly what was required of her."

Igor Olegovich, maybe you know what your mother said about the blade?

What were her assumptions?

As I see from the case materials, the knives were not sent for examination, the expert had nothing to compare the cuts of the tent with and whether it was cut precisely by their knives.

But maybe in the family circle, your mother could express her doubts about the blade, what was it like?

IOM: Maya, it’s embarrassing for me to listen to your apology at the expense of my concern.

I am glad to communicate with you, I am glad that at least with a small certainty I can bring clarity to some controversial issues.

About the blade.

There was no talk about this.

I think that if there was such a topic, it would be discussed more than once.

There were always enough knives in the house, including some very interesting specimens.

As a rule, experts have a certain amount of such "stuff".

There were cut damages on the tent, not stab cuts.

By cut damage, it is not even possible to determine the shape of the blade.

Only the presence of a cutting edge - the blade.

You can’t even say if it was double-edged blade (a dagger having 2 cutting blades), or it was a knife.

And as for cold weapons - this, in my opinion, is a far-fetched and given special significance.

Cold weapons are only the presence of certain properties on the weapon, which are mainly characteristic of causing bodily harm.

In the classical sense, cold weapons should not have household and industrial purposes.

Very controversial issue.

There are special knives, for example, medical or used for slaughtering cattle and carvinf meat.

Despite the special conditions of use, such knives will never be considered cold weapons.

It is impossible to determine the type of knife from the cuts in the tent.

MP: Igor Olegovich, it seems, there was evidence that your mother was on a slope.

Former student searcher Y. Blinov told E. Zinoviev that “...

The search group with dogs was abandoned on the first flight, a helicopter.

And the second flight, we flew with Maslennikov ... on the 28th, to the place.

I, a radio operator, some kind of correspondent was the newspaper "Na smenu" a woman I think was a local investigator. " (film 15).

As you know, women, even as newspaper correspondents, were not allowed on the slope.

In search of the Dyatlov group there were only two journalists - Y. Yarovoy and G. Grigoriev.

After I sent this material to Igor Olegovich for review and editing, I received an answer from him: “Maya, I am very grateful to you for your work and initiative.

To be honest, I was even surprised that someone else was dealing with this issue, and not just to dig up the "fried facts", but seriously, with a sincere desire to sort it out and present everything objectively.

Yes, of course, I fully approve of the material that you set out on the basis of our correspondence.

I made some minor amendments, see them, please.

Thank you!

P.S. I apologize for the fact that I don’t reply immediately to your messages, but now I’m busy with other things, and I don’t always have the ability to quickly respond to mail.

Sincerely, Igor Makushkin."

AFTERWORD

 

I really wanted Igor Olegovich to tell someday about what impressions his mother had after she visited the scene.

After all, no one knew about this, that forensic expert Genrietta Eliseevna Churkina was at the scene of the tragedy, and, according to her professional duties, studied the footprints found in the snow.

In the Criminal Case, there is no information that the traks were studied by professionals.

And this caused new bewilderment about the work of the investigation.

Now I understand that the work on the slope was carried out, moreover professionally, but not all the results of the work done by the experts were included in the criminal case known to us, as well as other very important documents.

I would also like to get answers on questions about the physical and technical examination of Dyatlov group tent, and read the notes of I.O. Makushkin on the so-called "royal examination" - identification of the remains of the family of Nikolai the Second.

With deep respect to I.O. Makushkin, G.E. Churkina and the entire glorious team of forensic experts,

Maya Piskareva

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#Orange

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In this infamous case there is a persistent talk about brown-red or orange discoloration of the of skin of the victims and their clothes.

Lets track this claims to their origin, and see what they amount to.

Case files

 

All autopsies were performed in the morgue of Ivdel central department hospital, PO Box №240 in daylight and sunny weather.

4 Mar 1959

• Doroshenko autopsy report (case files 104-111)
  The skin of the face is brown-purple color.
  (Russ - кожный покров лица буролилового цвета.)
• Krivonischenko autopsy report (case files 112-119)
  The skin of the face is blue-grey color.
  (Russ - Кожные покровы лица синюшно-серого цвета.)
• Dyatlov autopsy report (case files 120-126)
  The facial skin is of a bluish red color.
  (Russ - Кожные покровы лица синюшнокрасноватого цвета.)
• Kolmogorova autopsy report (case files 127-134)
  The skin of the face and hands is purple-red color.
  (Russ - Кожные покровы лица и кистей рук лиловокрасного цвета.)

 

8 Mar 1959

• Slobodin autopsy report (case files 95-103)
  The skin of the face is blue-red color.
  (Russ - кожные покровы лица синюшно-красноватого цвета.)

 

9 May 1959

• Kolevatov autopsy report (case files 345-348)
  The soft tissue of the face is thin, flaccid and of a dirty grey color.
  (Russ - Мягкие ткани лица дряблые истончены, грязно-серого цвета.)
• Zolotaryov autopsy report (case files 349-351)
  The facial skin is of greenish grey color.
  (Russ - Кожные покровы лица зеленоватосерого цвета.)
• Thibeaux-Brignolle autopsy report (case files 352-354)
  The skin of the face, body and limbs is of a grey-greenish color.
  (Russ - Кожные покровы лица, туловища и конечностей серозеленоватого цвета.)
• Dubinina autopsy report (case files 355-357)
  The skin of the face is of yellowish brown color.
  (Russ - Кожные покровы лица желтоватоскоричневого цвета.)

 

 

Funerals

9 Mar 1959 funerals, Zina's open coffin

Witness testimony of Rimma Kolevatova given on April 14 (Case files pages 270-272).

This is before the body of her brother was found: "I was present at all the funerals of the group.

Why were their faces and hands all so dark brown ?

How can we explain the fact that the four of them who were beside the fire, they were obviously alive, why didn’t they try to return to the tent?

If they were considerably better dressed, as far as I can see from clothes missing from the tent... if it was a natural disaster, then for sure, after being warmed by the fire, then the guys would have crawled back to the tent.

The whole group wouldn’t have perished from an Arctic storm!"

9 Mar 1959 funerals, Zina and Doroshenko open coffins

Yuri Kuntsevitch, the head of the Dyatlov Foundation in Yekaterinburg, remembers: “At that time I lived next to the cemetery, and was 12 years old, so I was really interested.

I tried to push through the crowd to see everything, but it was impossible.

I was amazed by some of the people in the crowd.

They were wearing trilby style felt hats and had jodhpurs or motorcycle riding pants.

They were supervising the procession with their faces blank, expressing nothing.

I was standing on a pile of earth at the graveside and I was about eight meters from the bodies.

Their skin had a somewhat brick color , and I saw some of the students helping to lower the coffins to the graves.

It was said they were there despite being forbidden to leave their classes to attend."

Conclusion

 

At the autopsies the color of the bodies was normal for the 3+ weeks and 3 months respectively exposure to the elements after the 5 days of snow reflective sunburn.

You can see from the visualization the shades that a corpse is going though in his normal cycle of decay after frostbite.

The first time the mysterious dark red, brick color is noticed at the funerals.

What happens between the autopsies and the funerals, especially when the caskets are going to be open?

Prep work by a mortician.

If you try to color the shades you read about in the autopsy reports, especially if the mortician is not the best, what kind of color do you think is gonna come out?

Looks at the colors from the autopsies.

And only the bodies found in March were seen off in open caskets.

From the hikers found in May only Dubinina's father was allowed to see the body of his daughter and sources say he fainted.

Nobody is discussing the color of their faces.

Also there are recollections for the contrary, that the bodies were of a natural color for the state they were in.

But these reports are not so sensational to repeat.

In this case only what is shocking seem to make it to the surface.

Georgiy Karpushin

Georgiy Karpushin, senior navigator of the 123rd flight detachment of the Ural Civil Aviation Administration remembers: "I can argue, since I saw the bodies of the deceased, that they were of a natural color, and not of any orange color, as they later said."

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Clothes

1962 Genrietta Eliseevna Churkina (Makushkina) at her desk

In 1999 medical forensic expert (specializing in tissues) Genrieta Eliseevna Churkina (now Makushkina) speaks about the coloring of the clothes on the bodies found in May.

She was present at their autopsies:

"I was present during the medical examination of the bodies conducted by Boris Vozrozhdenny.

I remember well when they took off their clothes and hung them on ropes, we immediately noticed that they had some strange light purple hue , although their natural colors were different.

I asked Boris - Don't you think that the clothes are processed with something? - He agreed."

Her son Igor Olegovich Makushkin doesn't remmebr anything about tohave been said about dicoloraion fo the clothes, but he remembers talk about orange snow.

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Irina Rashevskaya (Doroshenko) with her son Yuri

In 2011 Irina Nikolaevna Rashevskaya, sister of Yuri Doroshenko, writes a letter to "Internet Center of Dyatlov Group Tragedy" in which she says: "We were very poor.

For 4 years of study, mother somehow managed to get Yuri a coat because all he had was a jacket.

This is in the freezing Sverdlovsk. Unthinkable.

And she sent him a coat.

And this when Yuri was no longer alive.

How did mom cried.

I remember that she was telling and showing a sweatshirt and a sweater, both ruined.

Tinted with orange powder.

It seems all the dead were orange ."

Later on Irina Nikolaevna recounts the powder part, she remembers only that the clothes were tinted orange.

Irina didn't know much of what is going on with her brother Yuri because according to her own words "When Yuri entered UPI, we left for Kazakhstan.

I was 10 years old.

When Yuri died, I was 13 years old."

It is all hearsay.

Yuri was closer with his brother Volodya, who was 3 years younger, studied in UPI and died from a heart ascending Elbrus in 2008.

Theories

 

 

Mansi are using ocher

Mansi are using ocher to decorate their sleds and yurts.

One theory says that Mansi guarded the deceased from Dyatlov group before the search parties got to them.

They tried to help their souls with the transition in worthy afterlife according to their believes.

Maybe trying to talk to the departed souls.

Mansi are using ocher to decorate their sleds and yurts.

Read the reserach below about the use of the red and derivative color hues in the religion of the tribes from same family.

On the basis of investigating traditional clothing of the Ob Ugrians the author considers questions of colour symbols.

For reconstruction of certain modes of colour-marking, she attracts materials on clothing of the neighbouring peoples as well as those of the Finnish-lingual people of the Volga basin related to the Ob Ugrians.

"... The reddish color, embodied by ocher and other dyes (in Ob's blackheads, is a decoction of the larch bark, the paint from the plant Pomegranate, etc.), in archaic cultures associated with blood - a relevant force, a topical beginning.

Thus, in the Mansi, the kellankwe verb 'dye' is etymologically close to the word kelp 'blood, bright red, red' [Romandeev, Kuzakov, 1982, pp. 235-236].

In primitive thinking, blood had magical powers, including rejuvenating, invigorating and purifying qualities.

In accordance with it it was used: drank, smeared the body, sprinkled, etc. [Levi-Bruhl, 1994, pp. 522-523].

According to the field materials of the 1991 expedition, even in the middle of the twentieth century, the Lyapin Mansi had a tradition of drinking only the killed deer, which was attributed to its medicinal properties.

Notwithstanding that, in primitive thinking, the use of blood or a substitute (reddish paint) on the body or articles of clothing and everyday life gave them certain characteristics that could protect a person and satisfy his needs.

Z.P. Sokolova [1972, p. 59] described the funeral ritual of the Khanty rivers of the Sini and Kunovata, the entry of the tombstone..." Source Colour-symbols-in-Ob-Ugrians-traditional-clothing.pdf

Blood snow, watermelon snow, red snow - odd phenomenon caused by a cold-loving algae

Vladimir (ВэйС) visited the slope of Kholat Syakhl in 2013.

"On June 18 this year, moving along the snowfield, approximately in azimuth 230-240 degrees from the location of the tent and at a distance of 700-800 meters we found an orange-red spot located right on the surface of the snow and penetrating deep into the firn by about 8-10 mm The spot was not plaque-like, as it happens when tree pollen falls on the snow, the snow itself was colored evenly, without spots, on an area of ​​about 300x250 mm... We slightly dug up the spot, measured it, all this was done without gloves.

Returning to the camp we discovered that this substance stains the clothes quite visibly and persistently and could be wash out only after the second even third time.

Upon returning to Yekaterinburg, photographs and a description of the spot were handed over to specialists of the Institute of Plant and Animal Ecology of the Ural Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences, who easily classified this raid as Watermelon snow (Chlamydomonas nivalis), green unicellular algae.

Below is reference from Wikipedia: Chlamydomonas nivalis - unicellular freshwater green algae with red pigment (carotenoid) astaxanthin (in addition to the green pigment chlorophyll), which causes unusual snow color - red or pink ("snow bloom"), the opposite of thermophilic (thermophilic) algae.

Known for its ability to exist at low temperatures.

In addition to it there are still more than 350 species of such algae.

Once in the atmosphere when water evaporates, they color the snow in shades of black, brown or yellow.

The algae can develop on the surface of water, snow and ice. It blooms after the darkest and coldest period of winter, with a slight heating of the water, which turns green and, as the weather clears, turns pink or turns red.

Temperature of +4C is already deadly.

Thanks to protection from ultraviolet radiation, which is dangerous for other organisms at heights, it can reproduce at an altitude of up to 3.7 km above sea level.

Latin name is Chlamydomonas nivalis (Bauer) Wille"

Orange spheres in the sky

There are many sightings of light balls in the sky in this period of time and area.

I am going to address all of them - more than 20, in a separate publication, here I am citing the only one where it says that the phenomenon was orange-red in color.

Valentin Gerasimovich Yakimenko says that on 03/31/1959 a large ball of fire was moving directly at them from southeast.

The phenomenon lasted 20 minutes, and then disappeared behind the height of "880".

Before this, "a star appeared from the center of the ball, which gradually increased to the size of the moon, began to fall down, separating from the sphere."

The same was observed on February 17 throughout the Northern Urals (from Tagil to Ivdel).

“The ball moved silently,” says Valentin Gerasimovich Yakimenko, a participant in the search in 1959.

“It was orange-red, the size of a rising moon.”

Gradually, the circle was losing its features, blurring.

We experienced curiosity rather than fear ... Inside the ball, the movement of the jets was felt, the body itself resembled a plasma.

And, probably, that's why we had the idea of ​​ball lightning.

But this is only an assumption, no more... – Kizilov

The theory circulating the interent is: "Orange spheres were sighted in the sky on the night the Dyatlov group died by campers about 50 miles away from the scene; some explained these away as R-7 intercontinental missile launches, seeing as the last campsite was located on the pathway from Baikonur Cosmodrone to Chyornaya Guba, a Soviet nuclear testing ground."

I have many problems with this statement:

1. They mean Mt Chistop 34.2 km (21 miles) from Dyatlov Pass. At the time of the tragedy there was nothing there, only wolves. 20 years after the incident a radar station was installed on Mt Chistop, which existed until the 90s. The situation of this military facility is not conditioned by anything, which gave an additional reason for many researchers to talk about the "cosmic" trail of the tragedy.
2. Another aspect is that it doesn't make any sense for the Soviets to launch nuclear rocket to their own test base (Baikonur - Chyornaya Guba).
3. Besides 1959 and 1960 have no testing, a bilateral moratorium between the USSR and the US, officially beginning 31 Oct 1958. Source Wikipedia

Dyatlov Pass - Chistop - Baikonur - Chyornaya Guba

There is no much left from Chyornaya Guba.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Interview with Yuri's elder brother - Konstantin Krivonischenko

DYATLOV PASS·NIEDZIELA, 29 WRZEŚNIA 2019·

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Yuri (Georgiy) Alekseevich Krivonischenko

Yuri Krivonischenko, along with Yuri Doroshenko, was found one and a half kilometers from the tent in the forest under the cedar.

It is believed that both Yuri died the very first, since all the outer clothing was cut off by other hikers in order to warm themselves.

According to the examination, Krivonischenko and Doroshenko died from hypothermia.

But at the same time, chopped branches were found right under the cedar.

Why both Yuri froze in a calm forest near a fire and in the presence of firewood is unclear.

Our correspondents met with Yuri's elder brother - Konstantin Krivonischenko.

Konstantin Krivonischenko with wife Nina Panteleevna

To many researchers of this tragedy, Yuri Krivonischenko seems to be a rather mysterious person.

It is known that he worked at the Mayak secret nuclear enterprise.

It is believed that he was a KGB recruit.

Yuri’s clothes turned out to be radioactive.

For some reason, Yuri Krivonischenko, as well as another victim - Semyon Zolotaryov, was buried separately from other hikers in a prestigious and already closed city cemetery.

Camping photo: Yuri in the center on a raft in a scarf

Yuri’s brother, Konstantin Alekseevich, now lives in Kiev.

This is what he told us.

– In 1959 I lived in the Urals.

I worked at the Verkhniy Tagil state district power station as shift supervisor of the electric shop.

There were three brothers in our family.

I am born in 1931, Yuri - 1935, Igor - 1539.

I was left alone, the oldest.

What to say about Yuri?

He was a sociable and cheerful guy.

He wrote very emotional poems.

His favorite song was "I love you, life, and I hope that it is mutual".

And when he died, our mother found a piece of basalt, attached a silvered plate with an engraving on it with this line from Yuri’s favorite song.

She put it on a shelf in memory of Yuri.

– How did you find out about the Yuri's death?

– I don’t remember how it happened.

I know that they did not get in touch on time.

They began to look for them.

The bodies of the first five hikers were discovered.

And Yuri was among them.

Krivonischenko's father saved by Stalin

– It is known that your father was the construction manager of the Beloyarsk State District Power Station.

That is, the man is quite important, and he sought the truth about the death of Yuri, using his authority.

– Yes, he led a huge strategic construction site and was promoted to Major General.

I can tell you a story about his authority.

In 1949 father came under investigation.

Echelons with cement were brought to the construction site before the scheduled plan.

Since the warehouses had not yet been built, there was nowhere to unload the cement.

A case was brought against my father in the prosecutor's office and he could be punished very harshly.

But, as he later told us, they call him again to the prosecutor, and tell him that the case is closed, to continue work.

My father out of the corner of his eye saw a telegram on the prosecutor's desk saying: “Do not touch Krivonischenko.

Joseph Stalin".

That's it about authority.

Therefore, father managed to get Yuri to be buried where the parents decided.

When father returned from the morgue with identification, he was simply silent.

I began to ask him.

Have you seen Yuri?

He answered, yes, he saw him.

And he didn't uttered a word after this. Before the funeral, Yuri was put in a closed zinc coffin.

He was not brought inside the house; they laid him in the yard.

Then they put the coffin in the church at the cemetery.

There was no service.

It was not allowed back then.

Then mom said - leave me alone.

Everyone left the church.

She was there for about 10 minutes, probably crying.

Then they buried him and that's all...

– And after that, did you father eaver talked about Yuri in the morgue?

Was his color unusual?

– He did not say anything.

He didn’t want to upset us.

But the members of the search groups talked at the wake that the corpses were all black.

– But, probably, years later, this tragedy was remembered in the family, and your father said something about the reason hikers died?

– No, never.

All we knew was that the tent was torn with a knife, and they came out through these holes.

It was only later that conversations began that there could be some kind of military test.

They also said that it was a rocket that flew to Novaya Zemlya from Kazakhstan, but fell.

– Do you think that if your father never talked, and did not make assumptions about the death of Yuri, then perhaps he knew the whole truth?

Only it was such a truth that he could not divulge according to the harsh rules of the time?

– Everything is possible.

Perhaps it was warned.

But I don't know.

Even when dad and I were gathering at the table, there was no talk about this topic.

If I asked my father, he avoided responding.

He died, dead, and that's it, an accident.

If father knew something, he didn't have time to say it.

He died suddenly in 1970.

He was 63 years old.

What did Yuri's father know from eyewitnesses

In this regard, it is interesting to recall Krivonischenko's father testimony from the case files.

We give it completely with all grammar errors.

Krivonischenko witness testimony

Sheet 273

Protocol
witness testimony

On April 14, 1959, the prosecutor criminologist of Sverdlovsk region Romanov interrogated as a witness in District Prosecution Office, in compliance with Article 162-168 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the RSFSR

1. Surname, name and middle name: Krivonischenko Aleksey Konstantinovich
2. Year of birth 1907
3. Place of birth: city of Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine
4. Nationality: Ukrainian
5. Political affiliation: member of the CPSU since 1947
6. Education (which school graduated and when): Higher education
7. Occupation: a) currently (place of work and position): the head of the management of "Uralenergostroyekhanizatsiya"
   b) at the moment of the events: the same
8. Criminal record: no
9. Permanent residence (exact address and telephone number): Sverdlovsk, 29 Moscow St, аpt 27, ph D-1-96-30, work ph D-1-21-36
10. Passport:
11. Relation to the accused: -

Warned on the responsibility for the first part of Art. 92 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR for refusing to testify and under Art. 95 Criminal Code of the RSFSR for giving knowingly false testimony is forewarned.

Krivonischenko (signature)

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Witness testified: After the funeral of my son on March 9, 1959, I had students over at the apartment, participants in the search for the nine hikers.

Among them were those hikers who at the end of January and the beginning of February were on an expedition in the north, a little bit to the south of Mount Otorten.

There were apparently at least two such groups, at least the participants of the two groups said that they had seen the light phenomenon that struck them on February 1 north of the location of these groups: the extremely bright glow of some kind of rocket or projectile.

The glow was so strong, that some of the hikers that were already inside the tent and getting ready to go to sleep, were alarmed by this glow, went out of the tent and observed this phenomenon.

After a while they heard a sound like a strong thunder from far away.

I don't know the names of those who said that, because I have never seen them before and I don’t know them, but obviously the students who saw and heard this light and sound phenomenon can be tracked, as there were several people, and it was not difficult to determine which groups were in the North at that time.

The students said that they had observed a similar phenomenon twice: on the first and the seventh of February 1959.

The students said that near the fire under the cedar were found belongings that were not on the deceased - my son and Doroshenko, at the same time, they didn't have shoes but there were socks laying around.

We can assume that there were more people at the cedar tree than the two found there dead.

The rest must have gone away when two

Krivonischenko (signature)

Sheet 274

were already dead, or if they were still alive and left at the campfire like a temporary base - then the abandoned did not see the clothes, since when freezing they would have probably put on everything that could get their hands on.

The students said that the fire at the cedar didn't go off due to lack of wood, but because nobody maintained it.

This, too, obviously could be either because people who were at the fire did not see what to do, or because they were already blind or dead (blinded) mistake signature.

They say that a few meters from the fire there were dry branches fallen from a tree that were not used.

In the presence of a fire, it was not possible not to see something that could be easily used, so being blind seems like possible explanation.

Both hikers found at the campfire gradually lost sight (but very quickly) and although they could maintain the fire wile the wood lasted - they could not do it after they couldn't see what to do.

They froze after they were already dead.

This is only a guess of mine.

Krivonischenko (signature)
Interrogated (signature)

Shortly before his death, Yuri resigned

To clarify.

The Mayak dissaster occurred on September 29, 1957. And Yuri, for sure, came under exposure there.

His relation with the company soon went south.

The family archive contains Yuri's letter of resignation dated August 15, 1958.

Yuri Krivonischenko letter of resignation

"Please provide me with payment and accept my resignation at my own request from the company PO Box 404/10 due to complete unwillingness to work in this system".

The resolution of the authorities on the letter is: "We can not find a reason for dismissal.

It is necessary to fulfill the order of the head of the enterprise and begin work on the site "Ozero".

But Yuri still quit.

He took a break and went to Otorten.

It is possible that Krivonischenko went on the expedition in the same clothes in which he had been at the enterprise.

This means that the radioactive elements found on his sweater and pants (only a sweater - ed. note) could be picked up while working on the rehabilitation site "Ozero".

– Other researchers say that your father, in response to a request to higher authorities, received a paper with the resolution "guilty party is punished"?

– I did not see such paper and did not hear anything about it.

– What do you think happened there?

– Most likely the tests were unsuccessful.

In those days, there were rumors.

Somewhere near this pass was a military unit.

And then in the middle of the night suddenly they saw some kind of glow in the sky.

The soldiers jumped out of the barracks.

And allegedly some soldiers went to a psychiatric hospital.

This is what people said.

– And what happened after 1959 in your family?

– Father was appointed construction manager of the Beloyarsk nuclear power plant in the Urals.

He built it.

And when the installation of the nuclear equipment began, he was transferred to Pavlodar.

In the early 60s, he asked to be sent to Ukraine.

And he was returned to his homeland.

Yuri’s mom didn’t part with her son’s belongings

– What did your mother say about the tragedy?

– She never talked about this either.

– As for their mother, - Nina Panteleevna, the wife of Konstantin Alekseevich, entered into the conversation, - she always kept under her bed a suitcase with Yuri’s belongings - a sweatshirt, mittens and a hat, in which he went on this last trip.

A large portrait of Yuri hung in the room.

And on the day of his death, his mother sat in front of this portrait and cried silently.

I have to admit that we were afraid of this suitcase, suspecting that things in it could be radioactive.

And we have a child.

But my mother lived with a suitcase until 83 years of age and nothing.

And when she was gone, then we buried the suitcase.

– Why did you decide that there are radioactive items?

– At the moment I can’t even imagine why, but for some reason back in the time there were such fears.

– When Yuri’s things were found on the pass, it was on his pants and on his sweater that traces of radioactivity were discovered.

– After graduating from UPI, - Konstantin Alekseevich explained, - in the early summer of 1957, Yuri got a job at the now infamous Mayak plant.

I don’t know exactly what my brother was doing there, he said that he had soldiers under his command.

And soon at the enterprise there was an explosion of a storage.

There was a fairly large emission of radiation.

This is a known fact.

It is quite possible that he brought this radiation on clothes from the enterprise.

After all, if he had soldiers under his command, then he probably participated in the liquidation of the consequences of the explosion.

After that, he quit, got transferred somewhere and went on vacation.

He did not return from this vacation.

We thank Konstantin Alekseevich and Nina Panteleevna for the warm welcome and for sharing these memories.

We took some of Yuri's poems from the family archive.

They may seem imperfect to someone, but they tell us a lot about the character of this person.

Let Yuri rest in peace, as well as his comrades in this tragic expedition.

Yuri Krivonischenko with a friend. Perhaps it was to her that he dedicated his poems.

Skis in the corner, backpack on the closet,
Mandolin hanging on the wall.
Photo Album. Letters from friends,
Hiking treks - only in dreams…
Abandoned by fate to devil's horns:
There is no talk of mountains here,
Everyone calls me "fanatic"
They shed "crocodile tears".
And laugh, dipping noses in furs,
In life you will never know,
A snowstorm in the mountains,
How the wind plays the taiga.
You will never know grander,
When resting at the top,
And hundreds kilometers along
The green sea of the forests.
You will never see how rocks fall down,
How does the "Sayan vains" grow,
You have never seen the horns of a red deer
And roaring down stream from a clif.
You meet both winter and summer
Behind the double frame of the window,
And don't know the "power"
of sleeping by the fire in winter.
What do you boast about laughing at me?
With ignorance of your vast country?
Going to London, Paris, New York
To dance rock and roll, eat a couple of lobster
To buy fancy pants!
I feel sorry for you!

Y. Krivonischenko.

Campfire

I look at the burning fire.
Pink glowing flames won't last.
Comrades asleep, the day was dire.
Why can't you be with us?
Where on the world are you now
With a backpack and an ice axe,
What road are you dealt now
Always exploring the fate?
Maybe you’re making your way through the taiga
Knee-deep in the swamp waters,
Or wander under the ruthless sun
Somewhere in the Kazakhstan steppe?
Maybe you are in the snow of the Arctic,
And the blizzard sweeps your track?
Maybe this early morning
You meet the dawn in the Pamirs?
Covered with road dust
Hundreds of miles away from home,
Maybe your night is starless
And you don't think about me?
And you don’t know how often at nights
I move closer to the fire
And remembering you with longing,
I sing this sad song...
I look at the burning fire.
Pink glowing flames won't last.
Comrades asleep, the day was dire.
Why can't you be with us?

Y. Krivonischenko

Yuri Krivonischenko has beautiful sense of rhythm and rhyme that I haven't taken the time to match, translated word for word, except the strophe in italic, that repeats at the beginning and at the end of the Campfire poem.

The interview in Russian

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On 15 Aug 1958 Yuri Krivonischenko hands his letter of resignation "due to complete unwillingness to work in this system".

This does not sound like a whim.

Something happened and we will never know what exactly.

To me it doesn't sound just like harsh conditions for work.

Something completely ticked him off.

It is not clear as of what happened after that.

Mayak enterprise not only rejects the resignation but sends Yuri to one of the most polluted constructions site "Ozero".

Only because of this resolution we know where was Yuri working when he went to Otorten.

In the following thread it seems mail is not going through for some reason, but it speaks of the persistent inquiry of a facility which allegedly no more employs Krivonichenko, on the document dated 24 April 1959 it even calls him "former" engineer.

According to Alexey Rakitin Yuri Krivonischneko was not relieved of duties but reassigned, probably with the connections his father had, to a secret department of which even his former employers didn't know about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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29 Sep 1957 ― The day Russia nuked itself ― The Kyshtym disaster

The Kyshtym disaster was a radioactive contamination accident that occurred on 29 September 1957 at Mayak, a plutonium production site for nuclear weapons and nuclear fuel reprocessing plant in the Soviet Union.

It measured as a Level 6 disaster on the International Nuclear Event Scale (INES), making it the third most serious nuclear accident ever recorded, behind the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster and the Chernobyl disaster (both Level 7 on the INES).

 

Yuri Krivonischenko from Dyatlov group worked there and participated in the cleaning of the contamination.

Radioactive clothes found on the dead hikers, ring a bell?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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